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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (34845)	5/17/2008 12:25:27 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217747

Well being maximization. That's the business we humans are in. That's what made ups progress from uncivilized to civilized. The arrow points towards civilization even if at times, we get one step back after doing several forward. From religion ruled to secularism. Took a lot of time to get rid of religion rules, monarchies and other anachronic ways of organzing people. Democracy is considered by us westerners a more civilized way to maximize the well being of group of people under a certain set of circumstances. Given a different set of circumstances, such as prevalent in China, different religions and different philosophies, democracy is not civilization for them. Singapore was not democratic and achieved good results. What we should not do is to look at a regime that work here and trying to impose a la United States of 1950 to other people.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (34845)	5/17/2008 12:31:07 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 217747

What people like MQ and Elroy lack is culture. They had not delved into books at a young age and being communists/leftists/socialists when they had a heart for solving problems. (That's what TJ calls the knowledge acquired throught the musty dusty books.) Of course we all forgot all that by the time we are 28 years old. But all those books that we read seeking the truth -or what we then belived it was truth- still guides us because they were writtent by the best minds we had in those last 2.000 years. If you just gone to engineering school got a job and worked, you are at a disadvantage against epople who had acquired culture. It is not too late they still can read the musty dusty books.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (34845)	5/17/2008 12:42:42 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217747

If one has read Europe's history, he'd now that people's morality in the feudal time, was akin to the morality prevailing inside a modern prison. You would morph yourself into anything to avoid being crushed. You would do anything to get a favor. And you would behave always in ways to avoid pain and gain advantage. Closer example: the USSR. Under communism one would have to walk the line. Not think. And do whatever necessary to get the advantages the system provided to you. Going against the grain was surely recipe for suffering. That also created a morality that was adapted to that system. What has this to do with more money makes more people honest, an uncultured person would be asking by them. A lot. Or everything. Because scarcity breeds dishonesty, Plenty breeds honesty. That's why civil servants and spies are well paid. It doesn't mean they won't sell themselves. They do. Only that the price is very high, thus limiting the corruption. Therefore more affluent societies tend to be less corrupt than dirty poor ones. What happens when there is economic depression? Crimes increase. Why are the Scandinavians less corrupt? A uncultured person like MQ would say: DNA. Nope. Equality. now tell please those guys to go get some culture before they come to my thread. By the way read the thread subject: This Thread must fight easy conclusions