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To: michael97123 who wrote (385451)	5/21/2008 10:47:13 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1575424

>>> Bush actually equated the act of negotiations with appeasement. Appeasement is "granting concessions for peace". Any negotiation with Iran implies appeasement because Iran's position is one of war. They have said Israel is a stinking corpse that should be destroyed. This leaves no doubt as to their position. ANY negotiation that changes Iran's position would be, by definition, appeasement, UNLESS one subscribes to the theory that Iran is going to make a concession in their position without the US conceding something, which is of course, an irrational claim. This point has been addressed by numerous commentators, including McCain, by asking the all-important question, "What are you going to say to him?" When an adversary is holding a gun to your head you are in no position to negotiate; you can only appease. There is zero doubt that Bush was absolutely correct in his characterization. Now, whether most observers realize this is a different matter, and I'm not sure they do, so it may be true that McCain was hurt by it. Over time, I think Obama's innocence on these matters will come back to hurt him.

To: michael97123 who wrote (385451)	5/21/2008 11:44:06 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1575424

Michael, > I believe that obama has been very imprecise with language about preconditions or preliminary work needed for meetings with ahmadijad but thats not appeasement. Barack "Fill In The Blank" Obama. I love how Obama took personal offense at Bush's remarks in Israel which weren't even directed at him. If anyone, the comments could have been directed at Carter, who just met with Hamas, a known terrorist group. McCain better start forcing Obama to define himself, because the Dems are already flooding the airwaves with "McSame" ads. Tenchusatsu