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To: quehubo who wrote (69069)	5/28/2008 6:29:05 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542133

A secure Iraq will not be an Iraq likely to support terror groups. So when do we invade Somalia and the Pakistani tribal homelands? They are already natural and willing sanctuaries for terrorist groups. And then we have to invade and occupy any unstable Third World region in the world where terrorists might congregate? Because if we don't, what have we gained by making huge sacrifices in Iraq but not sealing off other venues? That's whack-a-mole on a crazy scale. Not to mention it has very little to do with how covert terrorists would execute a suitcase nuke attack on the US. As I said before, these disparate groups and threats are all strung together in a vague web, and the magic answer is always to keep doing what we are doing in Iraq. It's not a logical proof, just a campaign to plug a certain policy. It's also precisely why we invaded Iraq under false or mistaken premises in the first place.

To: quehubo who wrote (69069)	5/30/2008 4:55:46 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542133

>>AQ's capability has been destroyed for the time being by the fighting in Iraq. If not where are they? Why have they not launched another spectacular attack? Not only that AQ has revealed their hand in Iraq and many Muslims have learned to appreciate their threat. They are not recruiting the way they were before.<< Quehebo - Al Qaeda In Iraq, a group that didn't exist before we invaded Iraq, has been largely destroyed, yes. The parent group of Al Qaeda has been laying low, and I've read reports, including one on this thread just last week, saying that they are still doing well with recruiting, largely because there is widespread anger at the way the war in Iraq has been conducted, and because of Abu Grahib, Guantanamo, and secret torture prisons around the world. They're still producing their video tapes, and exhorting their followers to kill Americans wherever and whenever they can. And you can be quite sure they are still planning, planning, planning. - Allen