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To: Brumar89 who wrote (387288)5/30/2008 7:38:51 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573135
 
First we don't have the intelligence on the ground to do that. We never will have.

This really depends on a country's priorities and not what you think.

Its very unlikely. Israel has an advantage over us in that half their Jewish population are Mizrachi Jews, who know not only Arabic, but local dialects and customs for individual countries - all Arab nations aren't alike.


Let's see.......Israel has roughly 6 million people, half of which you claim speak Arab. We have roughly 2-6 million Arabs in this country. Are you telling me that US Arabs aren't as capable as Israeli Arabs?

It should also be pointed out that intelligence and "taking them out" hasn't defeated terrorism for them. The policy of holding host governments (like the Taliban govt) responsible for allowing terror groups haven on their territory seems more likely to be fruitful. This puts the onus on the local government to control terrorism in their country.

Israel is in a much different situation. In addition I suspect the Israelis have defused a lot of potential terrorism.

Second, if we were to send assassins abroad to "take them out" liberals in our own country would be horrified and call it a war crime. You object to waterboarding, to rendition of terrorists to their home countries governments, to detention in Guantanamo but we are to believe you would be okay with teams of assassins sent out to kill people without trials or hearings? How can we believe you are serious about this? It contradicts so many of your other positions.

You keep calling them assassins.....the AQ leaders don't have to be killed, just arrested will do.

I have not heard one liberal object to the arrest of an al Qaida operative.

I certainly have. Many liberals assume many or most terrorists we've detained are innocent - the example of the European Muslim who went to Afghanistan after 911 and was captured there and ended up in Gitmo ... hey didnt we discuss that very case here. And weren't you one of the ones arguing his arrest was wrongful?


There were any number of arrests that were wrong. At one point gitmo had men as old as 70 and boys as young as 12. Sorry, dude, I ain't buying that a 70 year old or a 12 year old is a serious threat to the US.

You guys don't even want us listening in on their phone calls unless we have a warrant from a US judge, but we are supposed to be able to spy on them and "take them out". Please.

Getting a warrant from a US judge is the law. Are you suggesting that the rule of law no longer matters?

Not in the case of war. We shouldn't handle a war problem like a law enforcement problem. AQ is waging war on us, they're not common criminals.


So you do believe the laws should be violated. There can be no understanding between us so long as you support illegal activity.