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To: Rambi who wrote (72128)6/14/2008 10:28:15 AM
From: Mary Cluney  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542010
 
<<<But it really isn't simple. It really isn't just about protecting the rights of the innocent in this case. It's about the Constitution, and the status of the prisoners at GITMO.>>>

“Wait a minute,” Specter interjected. “The Constitution says you can’t take it away except in case of rebellion or invasion. Doesn’t that mean you have the right of habeas corpus unless there’s a rebellion or invasion?”

Gonzales continued, “The Constitution doesn’t say every individual in the United States or citizen is hereby granted or assured the right of habeas corpus. It doesn’t say that. It simply says the right shall not be suspended” except in cases of rebellion or invasion.”


They are trying to make it more complex, but at the core you don't have to be a Constitutional lawyer to understand what is at stake.

The lines are clearly drawn.



To: Rambi who wrote (72128)6/14/2008 5:09:12 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542010
 
>>We talked about this last night- since Dan is an attorney, I htought he could enlighten me. But it really isn't simple. It really isn't just about protecting the rights of the innocent in this case. It's about the Constitution, and the status of the prisoners at GITMO. And whether they fit into that section that allows for the lifting of habeas corpus.<<

Rambi -

I would submit that the entire point of Habeas Corpus is to protect the innocent. It prevents the government from grabbing anyone they don't like, incarcerating them indefinitely, and denying them access to due process.

That's not a concept unique to our Constitution, and it should not be applied only to our citizens.

- Allen