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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (103171)6/18/2008 2:43:04 PM
From: Elroy Jetson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206088
 
I think the big change is going to be adding a 40 mile rechargeable capacity as the fleet of U.S. automobiles gets converted to hybrids (which is what auto makers will be rolling out).

The 50% cost saving per mile over gasoline, ethanol, or hydrogen is going to resonate with consumers. The savings is in the energy conversion efficiency, not the fuel itself.

In terms of ethanol, adding 5.6% as a blending additive for octane as is currently used, has transportation costs (primarily trucking) but for just 5.6% of the total.

Moving to higher levels would impose a big bump because the trucking cost would be a very high percentage of the total - meaning capital costs for new pipelines. This higher ethanol percentage product is now sold close to a pipeline to an ethanol distiller, excluding certain boutique outlets.

Ethanol also require a different pipeline construction / management due to the higher level of corrosion.

As for hydrogen, this entails building an even more expensive change-over in infrastructure. This is Schwarzenegger's personal hallucination for California due to emissions, but I bet it falls off the radar the moment he leaves office.
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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (103171)6/18/2008 3:11:36 PM
From: Archie Meeties  Respond to of 206088
 
Ethanol is currently moved by barge and rail, which is how gasoline used to be transported. The opportunity was in the rail car builders, but I think that ship has sailed.