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To: AllansAlias who wrote (1014)6/22/2008 5:43:39 AM
From: AllansAlias  Respond to of 3209
 
re: can make a case for up into the fall or down into the fall

What I really was trying to say regarding strength in tech and mid-caps is this:

The breadth on this decline since May just stinks! It is being lead by the non-tech mega-caps, but the broadest measures are not yet following that lead.

I have no idea what kind of structure we would have if we rise from these levels -- something very jello'y that's for sure.



To: AllansAlias who wrote (1014)6/22/2008 7:49:45 AM
From: skinowski  Respond to of 3209
 
we are at a new inflection point here

Going into shorter time frames, we just had a month-long decline which looks - in non-tech - impulsive (it may not be finished yet). Next several days to weeks may give some clues. If we have a corrective bounce with much of the fear receding, that could be seriously bearish. As of now, a 50% retracement of the May-June SPX decline is in the 1370's.



To: AllansAlias who wrote (1014)6/22/2008 9:18:54 AM
From: skinowski  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3209
 
I don't find that tech has to necessarily "confirm" non-tech. Here are 3 examples, each in a different time frame:

The DOW topped in January 2000, and the OTC's rallied to new highs into March.

Last October non-tech's topped on October 11, and OTC's made a new high a few weeks later.

Most recently, "Old Economy" made a top on May 19, and tech rallied to a new high in June.

In each of those cases the perceived divergence did not stop the markets from breaking down. Therefore, I keep an eye on them, but find no reason to allow these things to weigh too heavily when it comes to making decisions.



To: AllansAlias who wrote (1014)6/22/2008 1:40:59 PM
From: SwampDogg  Respond to of 3209
 
Looks like one more thrust in the TSX to the mid 15Ks and that should be it.
Of interest the index is now down a wee bit since July '07
Oils may want one more high while the ferts/RIM top out and banks continue to fall apart. Quite a witches brew that may result in quite the mess going into the end of the year.
Short signal would come on a break to new ATHs and then a revist into the recent trading range.

Inverse...long on a breakdown and rally above recent lows. Would be 5 waves off early '08 high/low. May end up being a 4-5 bagger

stockcharts.com

Horizon is also bringing in a 2x long/short US long bond in the next month. Nice LT position.