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To: Sea Otter who wrote (255886)	6/27/2008 2:48:00 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793712

where they can breath the air, drink the water and have an environment where they can succeed. This was never a problem. And was mainly taken care of by the 80s. Just contrast the air quality in the LA basin from 1950 to 1980. I know. I lived there. What has happened is that people who feel like you and I about clean water, air, etc, have been co-opted by these Religious Greens and their helpers, the World Socialists, who want control of the economy. Now that we are finally facing the cost of doing what they want, we are recoiling. Plus, in the meantime, 30 years of alarmist propaganda has blown up in the Greens faces.

To: Sea Otter who wrote (255886)	6/27/2008 2:59:27 PM
From: miraje	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793712

Have you been to China or India? If not, I recommend the trip. Outside our cozy confines, the world is looking scarier. I've travelled the world extensively and have found that, for the most part, poverty and pollution go hand in hand. Cleanliness increases proportionately as the wealth of a country increases. The USA is a clean country. The containment of real pollution is well in hand here. New vehicles, for example, are effectively pollution free. CO2 is not pollution, in spite of it being the current whipping dog of the greenies. When real pollution diminished as a problem in the 1st world, they had to find a new "cause", and "global warming" and CO2 became it. I'm not interested in seeing a world so degraded that my children suffer. IMO, your children (and everyone else's) will suffer a lot more from economic depression and the resulting chaos than from the bogus straw man of "degraded Mother Gaia"...

To: Sea Otter who wrote (255886)	6/27/2008 3:35:21 PM
From: Peter van Steennis	Respond to of 793712

Once you get China, India, Brazil, Russia and some of the other developing countries to control their green house gases I will put in with you. But until then it puts the USA at a serious economic disadvantage. Our industry (that is left) will be forced to close down, factories and jobs moved overseas to the polluting countries. Best of luck. Peter

To: Sea Otter who wrote (255886)	6/27/2008 4:17:51 PM
From: Joe Btfsplk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793712

Environmentalism is... In the 50's we'd gig flounders in Puget Sound; waded chest deep amongst floating sewage and strange rubber cylinders. You then could only see inches into the water of Lake Washington. In the sixth grade I lived just above the Bethlehem Steel plant in West Seattle, watched the chimneys spew. That's all cleaned up now. Concurrently material comforts have improved exponentially. Both thanks to the function of the mysterious market. I fear the greenie wienies may and are interfering with the processes that made good stuff possible. As to China and India, give'm some time. Didn't happen overnight here, won't there.