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To: Road Walker who wrote (575)7/6/2008 6:33:12 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 86355
 
You can produce "more" oil and natural gas in the US and it won't make a bit of F'ing difference.

Thats a ridiculous claim to make. Of course, every bit of domestic production makes a difference.

Every expert in the world says that (except you and Rush Limbaugh and George Bush). Get over it.

Anyone who says producing more oil and gas in the US wouldn't make a difference is no expert in anything but misleading rhetoric.

The only way we can make a difference is through efficiency...

Efficiency is a great thing. But we don't have to forego producing more oil to do it. And its not the ONLY thing that will make a difference.

You've got a couple of percentage points of world production, or 1/4 of world consumption. What do you target?

Both producing more energy here and conservation are good things. We've dropped our gasoline consumption back to 2002 levels so far. That will continue to drop unless we see a big drop in price. You're wrong to advocate purposefully foregoing domestic production in the cause of conservation. We don't have to do that.

Btw, if you think we can go from 25% (actually a little under that) to 3% of world consumption w/o a massive drop in the US standard of living anytime w/i the next few decades, you're nuts.

If we could quickly double our gasoline consumption in our vehicle fleet (which we can't because of how long vehicles stay on the road) we still wouldn't be at 3% of world consumption.



To: Road Walker who wrote (575)7/6/2008 7:06:54 PM
From: RetiredNow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86355
 
John, save your breath. These jokers wouldn't recognize a Pareto chart if it was tattooed to their foreheads. Why go after the largest opportunities to solve our problem, when you can go after the smallest opportunities and not solve the problem at all? Or in Tim's words, there is no problem to solve. LOL.