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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: maceng2 who wrote (22130)7/10/2008 9:17:14 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36921
 
Our thread "expert" is on record as having measured the sky (with and without clouds) using his $60 IR meter, so I assume he does in fact think that both gas and condensed vapor do in fact have some average emissivity which can be measured by his technique. Despite his claims a few posts back that they don't in fact have emissivities.



To: maceng2 who wrote (22130)7/11/2008 7:23:25 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36921
 
It is my contention that equations used by anthropogenic CO2 global warming priest's posing as Climate Scientists are bogus. using equations with constants that are for solids and liquids that do not correctly apply them to the air create suggestions of cause and effect that is idiotic.
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2.1.5 Conclusion

Three facts should be emphasized here:

* In classical radiation theory radiation is not described by a vector field assigning to every space point a corresponding vector. Rather, with each point of space many rays are associated (Figure 3). This is in sharp contrast to the modern description of the radiation field as an electromagnetic field with the Poynting vector field as the relevant quantity [99].
Figure 3: The geometry of classical radiation: Two surfaces radiating against each other.
Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects 21

* · The constant appearing in the T4 law is not a universal constant of physics. It strongly depends on the particular geometry of the problem considered.8
* · The T4 law will no longer hold if one integrates only over a filtered spectrum, appropriate to real world situations. This is illustrated in Figure 4 .