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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (34955)	7/16/2008 12:49:30 PM
From: tonto	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224749

Bush did not come across well, but he is now irrelevant and we need to focus on the future not the past.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (34955)	7/16/2008 12:53:25 PM
From: tonto	Respond to of 224749

I wonder where Obama got his idea for a troop surge in Afghanistan? (s) What is that old saying about flattery?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (34955)	7/16/2008 12:53:36 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Respond to of 224749

Pres Bush doesn't have Obama's superhuman powers...he's a mere mortal like us and looked tired after working hard for Americans. Despite that fact, the president took the time to cope with the whining liberal WH press corps.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (34955)	7/16/2008 12:58:04 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 224749

I loved how Bush told that whiny liberal that the people don't need to have the Pres tell them when to lower the thermostat and drive less. A dem would never have done that

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (34955)	7/16/2008 1:08:12 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 224749

“I don’t like some of his policies, like on energy,” said Bob Beidelman, 69, a white Democrat from York, Pa., about Mr. Obama. “Also I don’t like statements his wife made. She seems like a spoiled brat to me.” He added: “I’m one of those white people who clings to guns and the Bible, and those things that Barack said kind of turned me off,” he said. “This isn’t a black and white thing. If a conservative African-American like former Congressman J. C. Watts was running, I’d have bumper stickers plastered all over my car supporting him.”

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (34955)	7/16/2008 1:49:46 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Respond to of 224749

Cartoons We Can Believe In By David Harsanyi, denverpost.com, July 16 2008 It's been an exciting few days for Barack Obama. First, Jesse Jackson suggests his castration. Now, the beacon of liberal intellectualism cuts his "n@#s" off. As many of you have heard, this month's New Yorker magazine depicted Barack Obama as a flag-burnin', terrorist-lovin' candidate whose wife sports a Brown afro, camouflage pants and an AK-47. But it's only satire. Still, for the perpetually offended, irony doesn't cut it. First, the progressive blogosphere -- where, as we all know, commentary is always civil -- took mass umbrage. Then the Obama campaign called the cartoon "tasteless and offensive." Some of America's best moments in journalism are "tasteless and offensive." And, in satire, we've seen some of our sharpest political punditry. Just ask fans of Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart. "Satire is part of what we do, and it is meant to bring things out into the open, to hold up a mirror to the absurd. And that's the spirit of this cover," explained New Yorker editor David Remnick. No worries. The reflection you should see is a barbaric, right-wing smear machine, not Obama in a turban. Well, this explanation wasn't enough to avoid censure. It's too bad the indignation over the cartoon is not applied evenly. When Rolling Stone published a cartoon of John McCain in a Vietnam bamboo jail being tortured by other candidates a couple of months ago, no uproar could be heard. And though George Bush is portrayed as a mentally deficient simian (for the millionth unimaginative time), there is rarely talk of a pox of "tasteless" journalism. In the case of the New Yorker cartoon, one of the arguments critics make -- and I heavily editorialize here -- is that boobs in Wal-Mart America aren't sufficiently sophisticated to deal with the cerebral wit of a New Yorker cartoon. Those people will believe anything, after all -- well, anything but science. To be as fair as possible, I would also suggest that rumor mongering and conspiracy theorizing are not the sole province of any one political affiliation. Take if you will, the many highly educated and literate New Yorker readers who believe that bloodthirsty Republicans met in a smoke-filled room to hatch 9/11 and the Iraq war so Halliburton could kill children for kicks. Now, if we're to take this cartoon as seriously as the offended, there are other problems. To begin with, the cover feeds the false perception that there exists a mainstream effort to smear Obama with vile rumors. Or that those who oppose Obama do so because they are unduly influenced by vile rumors rather than policy disagreements. Finally, it forwards the notion that any question remotely unseemly about Obama should automatically be filed under "vile rumors." Not so. It's completely preposterous and unfair to portray Obama as a terrorist enthusiast or a secret Muslim (not that there's anything wrong with that!). But is it unfair to ask Obama about his longstanding relationship with unrepentant domestic terrorists like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn or a clergyman who "goddamns" America? Fortunately, the average voter is not swayed by silly things like an ironic cartoon or a false Internet rumor. We choose our candidates using a high-minded formula that takes into account things like height, who we'd rather have a beer with and best slogan. Reach columnist David Harsanyi at dharsanyi@denverpost.com.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (34955)	7/16/2008 2:00:51 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224749

Gasp!..Skewed Polls: Washington Post sample: 52% Democrats by Ed Morrissey, July 16 2008 The good news from the Washington Post poll for Barack Obama is that eight-point lead among registered voters. The bad news comes from the sampling, which as usual skews to the Democrats. When asked to identify their party affiliation, the sample showed 37% Democrats to only 24% Republicans. When calculated for “net leaned”, the Democrats get 52% of the sample, compared to 38% for Republicans. Obama should be blowing McCain out of the water at this point, and yet he’s struggling to maintain any significant lead even among the friendliest sampling. All McCain needs to do now is stay close — and he could do better than that by hammering Obama on energy. If McCain wants to attack Obama’s strength, that’s the chink in the armor he should target.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (34955)	7/16/2008 2:22:39 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Respond to of 224749

Al Gore, International Man of Madness by Christopher C. Horner Posted: 07/16/2008 Australian doctors have published in a medical journal the case of a 17-year old held for observation, suffering the first observed case of “climate change delusion phenomenon” (CCD). It seems that he suffered from fears that “due to climate change, his own water consumption could lead to days to the deaths of millions of people through exhaustion of water supplies.” This particular product of modern education techniques “was referred to the inpatient psychiatric unit at Royal Children’s Hospital Melbourne with an eight-month history of depressed mood…He also…had visions of apocalyptic events.” Where ever would he get such an idea? OK, this is where it gets uncomfortable, but…first observed case? Sure, and I just swerved from the first observed case of road rage. Good grief, you could have padded the walls at last year’s Nobel Peace Prize award ceremony. Bring the giant butterfly nets to any college campus, and call avant garde “artist” Cristo to surround the European continent in bubble wrap, stat, because this mania long-ago reached epic proportions. Better late than never, and all that. But please tell me the difference between this kid and Al Gore? That’s a trick question, of course: Gore, too, thinks the child’s individual consumption could trigger immediate global catastrophe (but his own gluttony is not at all relevant). Or, possibly, Gore presents the first observed case of cognitive dissonance in a liberal? Hmm. Not that either. Hopefully the young man will be released before autumn so he may gavel the next UN General Assembly into session, or at least in time for Senate confirmation hearings. After all, Senator Barack Obama has vowed that his election would mean stopping the rise of the tides (rising since the end of the last ice age, btw). Who better to wield the broom on Obama’s behalf than this lad? One of the most active global warming alarmists in the United States Congress is Sen. John McCain, who for years told of his conversion following a sit-down with a kid in a penguin suit who had been heckling McCain in New Hampshire. I don’t know if this meets the nascent DSM for Climate Change Delusion, but to be safe by all means keep this man away from Disneyland. What havoc Goofy, Donald and Mickey could wreak on the 100-day agenda! Hopefully the ensuing treaty will at least respect the Magic Kingdom’s strict banking secrecy laws in return for our promise to whistle while we work. That the shrinks recognize this madness is a nice twist. Especially considering that some pols have actually argued that global warming skeptics might, with sufficient commitment, be vulnerable to cure. The new diagnosis comes just as the academic Left lectures us in the manner used in “re-education” camps of old. (The Soviets used them, one step away from the Gulag.) A German colleague of mine tells of the scientist near his own hometown who received the, ah, invitation to come spend some time with the state’s doctor. This was in eastern Germany of course, but after the Wall fell. Apparently his objection to the greens’ agenda led to deep concern over the poor dear’s well-being. So -- with any luck -- the shrinks recognizing the malady of falling prey to hysterical prophesying, a resistance to the fashionable doomsday cult of global warming could actually be labeled therapeutic. The rest of the lab-coat gang could surely take a lesson, as Big Science has risked its place in our society by mendaciously promoting hysteria about catastrophic Man-made global warming. Its well-deserved downfall borne of this corruption would ultimately prove a disservice to us all. Consider the global nature of the illness Big Science has unleashed. Last November UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon described the more extreme computer model projections of the future as even scarier than science fiction movies, “because they are real”. Yeah… Earlier, Germany’s then-Environment Minister Jurgen Trittin wrote how Americans were causing their “land and the world economy … natural catastrophes like Katrina” because we don’t adopt the preferred lifestyle agenda Europe has in mind for us. At about the same time, a cry for help in the form of a “we told you so!” resolution circulated in the European Parliament. It expressed sympathy for the Rita and Katrina storm victims as prelude to an absurd lecture how the long-predicted impacts of global warming had now come true, in that poor populations living in low-lying coastal areas bore the brunt of severe weather. Because, you know, before Man-made global warming the poor living in low-lying coastal areas used to stare happily overhead as severe weather proceeded inland to strike wealthy highlanders. I’d say a 42 extra-long, worn backward with the sleeves tied at the back should suffice while they catch their breath. Closer to home, the dean of resource economists, Yale’s William Nordhaus, estimates the cost of projected climate change to be $22 trillion. This seems to overstate the bad and ignore much of the good that a slightly warmer, wetter world would bring, but let’s go with it. Al Gore wants us to spend $34 trillion on his lifestyle agenda in order to bring that cost of climate change down to $10 trillion, for a total tab of $44 trillion leaving us precisely twice as bad off as we purportedly would be. Again, this presumes the truth of everything he says and that somehow by reducing Man’s CO2 emissions -- which have risen dramatically in recent years while the planet cools just as dramatically -- would actually make things cooler still. So one guy advocates burning down your -- our -- house out of precaution given that one day the air conditioning might not work, and wins an Oscar and Nobel; his teenaged groupie gets locked up. No, he’s not the first one to lose it over “global warming.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Horner is author of "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming and Environmentalism."