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To: Brumar89 who wrote (828)	7/22/2008 5:08:51 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 86356

A tanker spill, even though they don't happen often is pretty much guaranteed to be a whopper and do vast environmental damage. I think there are a few small tanker spills as well. Most oil is moved in large tankers, and even though they are compartmentalized each compartment is very large (and more than one can be ruptured), so you get very large spills. But for some purposes smaller tankers are used. Also sometimes certain types of mistakes can result in small releases from larger tankers. Most oil from tanker spills comes from large spills, it might even be the case that most tanker spills of any significance (not counting things like a couple of quarts of lubricating oil, leaking from some machinery on the tanker) are very large, but there are a few smaller ones.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (828)	7/22/2008 6:29:32 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

Consider that shipping oil in by tanker is a bigger spill risk than offshore drilling. Rational environmentalists ought to be FOR offshore drilling if it will mean less tankers coming into our waters. So it is reasonable to think environmentalists "just don't like" offshore platforms, I think, and that dislike overrides a rational balancing of relative risks. Or they (rationally) understand there is no alternative to oil tankers. Certainly you realize that even with every OCS area open to drilling we would still be importing 60%+ of our oil.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (828)	4/30/2010 6:56:44 AM
From: Road Walker	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 86356

re: Consider that shipping OIL in by tanker is a bigger SPILL risk than offshore drilling. Rational environmentalists ought to be FOR offshore drilling if it will mean less tankers coming into our waters. So it is reasonable to think environmentalists "just don't like" offshore platforms, I think, and that dislike overrides a rational balancing of relative risks. Note: The risk of a bunch of an individual SPILL is greater for offshore drilling than for tanker deliveries, but offshore spills are mostly small and of little consequence. A tanker SPILL, even though they don't happen often is pretty much guaranteed to be a whopper and do vast environmental damage. Still standing by this statement?