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Technology Stocks : Qualcomm Moderated Thread - please read rules before posting -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: quartersawyer who wrote (79241)7/27/2008 10:38:14 AM
From: Qstick  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 197271
 
How long the debtor has to pay you back???

How so? Nokia hammered out a large overpayment, if you will, of current obligations. Included in the complex negotiation and agreement (finally) for a large upfront payment of cash, were: -satisfaction of prior royalties owed (imho); upfront license fees for all flavors of the wonderful sauce; purchase of discount of future royalties due for 15 years; and, a reduction for value of patents available for the Q to use, including defensive patents as noted by Rosenburg.

Evidently the amortization of certain parts of this upfront payment of cash (balance being carried as a deferred intangible asset), is perplexing to Bill Keitel; therefore the statement by him of a $.07 to $.13 range of impact in the FY4Q08 and varying amount for the following FY09. This impact depends on the analysis of how to handle soooooo much money in the accounting records.

Nokia, OTOH, likely figured out some way to get this messy little matter out of the minds of Mr. Market. E.g., Wachovia reports in the 2Q08 a $9B+ loss; does anyone really believe that this sizable loss occurred in the quarter reported?

Nokia has plenty of cash and their number one priority was to lower royalties paid to their arch enemy and also to be able to report to the World the same. This they accomplished...I have to have faith in Paul, Steve, and Bill they they abstracted an adequate amount of cash such that the discount fully values our patents.

I hope for a special dividend too; with the Q's margins, there is absolutely no need to retain all of this cash and the cash coming down the pipe.



To: quartersawyer who wrote (79241)7/27/2008 6:11:48 PM
From: genedabber  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 197271
 
"Let's also bear in mind that all of what shareholders should have seen since April '07 is being amortized over 15 years. That's how long this agreement allows the debtor to pay you back. If you live and hold that long, it's a dime on today's dollar, maybe 3 cents if you had received your due as a special dividend and invested it sensibly. The sacrosanctity of the secrecy of the real numbers is nuts."

Your statement is very misleading, to say the least. Whereas the values of the agreement is amortized over the life of the agreement, the assets are received now. The cash and the IPR are received now and put to use now - the amortization has to do with accounting standards and tax laws. There are several advantages to this type of settlement.

Gene