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To: Rambi who wrote (76805)	7/27/2008 12:33:59 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 543150

The irony of the gay marriage debate is that gays were bashed for decades for promiscuity and undermining the social fabric with that lifestyle; now that hundreds of thousands of them want a faithful, monogamous legal relationship, that too is going to undermine American society. Both views will end up on the dust heap of history in the near future. Hearing about your kids and Syb's kids and my niece and nephew, I have every confidence that the last bit of discrimination on that topic will be largely swept away by the generations. It is on its last legs now.

To: Rambi who wrote (76805)	7/27/2008 2:04:19 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 543150

No, I'm sorry if I seemed sarcastic with that answer. I thought about editing my response later, but you had already responded. I actually changed my mind during the course of this discussion. If society wants to permit gay marriage, it's OK with me. Forgive me if I do not intend to be an activist seeking such a reform. It's just not my issue. This whole series of posts started with my answer to a post from Tim Fowler about a topic that is unrelated except that it exemplifies the injustice to which I am actively opposed: Man charged after stopping suspect WEYMOUTH, England, July 8 (UPI) -- A Weymouth, England, man said he has been charged with assault after he detained a man who broke a business' window. Steve Kink, 47, said he went outside his wife's bar when he heard an alarm go off in a nearby cell phone store and confronted two men standing near the store's broken window, The Daily Mail reported. "I accused one of them of smashing the window and he said 'what ... has it got to do with you?'" Kink said. "He then took a swing at me and punched me just under my left eye. I grabbed hold of him and managed to sweep one of his legs from under him and I held him there by putting the toe of my shoe on his shoulder blade. "There were lots of other people around at this stage and somebody had hold of the other bloke he was with. When the police arrived I stepped back and he kicked off at them. When he was put in the police car he tried to kick in the windows," he said. However, Kink said the man was eventually released with a caution for criminal damage -- and a few days later, police showed up at Kink's home to arrest him for assault. A police spokesman confirmed the charge. upi.com reason.com Message 24788515 snipurl.com