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To: carranza2 who wrote (37734)	7/30/2008 10:03:39 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 217588

Iraq was the US last war. The time for conventional wars is long past and someone forgot to tell the military caste. After WW II the US military caste tried to keep gorging in tax payer's money. The Cold War, kicked up in earnest helped by McCarthyism planted right inside the US and in the minds of the American people. Agency was created to dole out reporting to substantiate to the government the need for more defence. Like the USSR send a dog to space and start a space race. That sort of concoction... Ass kicked in the Korea War there came Vietnam's. Ass kicked unceremoniously in Saigon, the US military caste was quiet for a moment. There came Reagan with his 600-ship navy and more money was thrown in. The US population at Vietnam’s war end only was willing to fight if Canada was attacked -which prompts the question why someone would be interested in Canada- started being tested. There came some little wars, Panama and Granada. Te population seemed to accept the adventures in foreign soil, let’s go to Lebanon, Saudi and Somalia. And there came the bombings showing that the time for conventional wars was long gone and someone forgot to tell the military caste. Cold war gone, military caste was as useful as a Telex machine in an office. The relics of Cold War: Castro, Saddam, Kim, Khadafy provided the bogey man figure for keeping the moolah coming. Come Adventure in the desert sand I, followed by adventure in the desert sands II... Today the fiasco is plain to see. Europeans don’t want to be part of this anymore. Only Eastern Europeans are naive enough to accept NATO membership and risk the Russian wrath... If anyone thinks a new conventional war is still feasible could be only if such person earns a living from defense budget...

To: carranza2 who wrote (37734)	7/30/2008 12:40:06 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217588

Re war with China. What a joke. The last pair of shoes made in the UK was in 2002. Message 18163896 In the final event, when the Chinese infantry come over the hill to take over the nuclear wasteland (you still need troops to occupy the enemy land to qualify to have "won the war"), our troops won't even have boots to run away with. When you have every single blessed manufactured article made in China, you cannot go to war with that country and "win". The USA goes as the UK goes on this one. atom.com

To: carranza2 who wrote (37734)	7/30/2008 5:08:23 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (7) \| Respond to of 217588

<<China's naval disadvantages would require it to go nuclear against US carrier groups>> there has been no ambiguity on this point even though rummy played dumb re 'transparency'. china's warning was explicit, that interference in taiwan strait with carrier group(s) will result in nuclear take-out of carrier group, full stop. stratfor and the pentagon initially poopooed the warning as a chinese general speaking off the ranch, then as for chinese domestic consumption (the warning was served via international-only media), until the truth dawned, after about 6 months of pondering, that a warning had been issued on par with china's warning before entering the korean war on side of north, against usa navy firstly and against hundreds of american cities as a natural follow-on if escalated. it was also a period when a bunch of submarine games were played against japan mainland and usa fleet exercises, and japan then 'knew' instinctively that nukes will be used against an interfering japan with even less deliberation, as in instinctively automatic response for the neat and tidy yakuza-ran operation. chinese take war seriously, as in do not fight it unless must. americans take war lightly, meaning be brave from up on high against civilians. war is not about weapons as much as about will. on the warning re taiwan, the american climb down was rapid, and completely muted in the media. had it been played up, empire over, and so goes the dollar, as opposed to the other way around. economic realism triumphed, a good thing. the nature of the game between usa-russia-china is just getting interesting, and i doubt the most likely has been accounted for by the majority.