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To: fastpathguru who wrote (254984)	7/31/2008 5:06:11 PM
From: Elmer Phud	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Perhaps the EC is under the impression that the consumer could have gotten EVEN MORE for EVEN LESS had Intel not perverted natural market forces. It's nice to see you think the EU might be agreeing that the market works but it's simply silly to think that if Intel charged more, the consumer would pay less. However it is consistent with the criminalization of any dominant producer. If the EU is protecting the competition rather than the consumer then it makes some sense. I wish they'd make up their minds as to what their trying to accomplish.

To: fastpathguru who wrote (254984)	7/31/2008 5:43:10 PM
From: jay101	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

<< "...the consumer could have gotten EVEN MORE for EVEN LESS had Intel not perverted natural market forces ...">> Really? ... Care to speculate on "how that would have happened", and "how much less" the European customers would have paid? If I were a "European citizen" and a part of the "EU (UNION)", I would be deeply ashamed of their "PRACTICES" ..... Please read this concluding excerpt (Regarding Microsoft) from an article which exposes the EU as nothing more than bullying, extorting, THUGS who <<.."By imposing endless fines without any path to reach compliance ..">>; continously and consistently extract money from SUCCESSFUL (NON EUROPEAN)corporations in the guise of "helping consumers", while simultaneously taxing the hell out of them for every purchase they make! [Just think of what the name implies: "European Commission of Interoperable Systems" (ECIS), sounds like the the BORG ! ... All ONE big unified system .... I ask WHY can't someone develop a unique (possibly superior) system, which is not "Interoperable" with everything else out there? ... That simple concept is disallowed in Europe? ____________________________________________________________ "Fined if You Do, Fined if You Don't" Created: Friday, Jul 25/2008 11:51 Written by Rose Overbey By Daniel R. Ballon <<"..............Based on complaints from the ECIS, Kroes launched a new investigation against Microsoft in January. Even though the company's new strategy goes above and beyond any remedies sought by ECIS, Kroes imposed a $1.3 billion fine as retroactive punishment for not acting sooner. Furthermore, she pledged to continue the moot investigation, reserving the right to impose additional arbitrary penalties in the future. If she cannot inflict sufficient damage using fines, Kroes will force the company to sabotage its own products, making them less appealing to consumers. Even though the Internet has become an indispensable component of modern computing, the EC recently launched a second investigation to determine whether Microsoft should be forced to ship its Windows operating system without any Web browsing capabilities. Creative companies with innovative ideas should be rewarded in the marketplace, not punished by the government. The EC's perverse system of incentives penalizes popular products, while encouraging anti- consumer practices such as collusion and extortion. By imposing endless fines without any path to reach compliance, Neelie Kroes saps the motivation for technology firms worldwide to compete and succeed. European regulators must stop treating Microsoft as their personal ATM and allow consumers everywhere to share the wealth." Daniel Ballon, Ph.D., is a Fellow in Technology Studies at the Pacific Research Institute in San Francisco, California.>> The entire article/link: thecherrycreeknews.com