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To: maceng2 who wrote (38193)8/10/2008 4:45:07 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218030
 
any further resistance by georgia, if supported by team usa and nato, will likely result in helicopter downings over mesopotamia and aircraft not rising over afghanstan

this is what the unthinking haims of this world are missing

typical imperial hubris and bully over reach

even as georgia made an obviously large and soon to be more costly if not altogether fatal strategic error



To: maceng2 who wrote (38193)8/10/2008 4:49:13 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 218030
 
The major danger in this conflict aside from the obvious is the new invented claim of Russia for starting a war.

Russia sent troops and tanks into the disputed region the next day in what it said was a response to Georgia's assault on Russian citizens and peacekeeping forces. Most residents of South Ossetia hold Russian passports. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aIlcyiYYcQTQ&refer=home

Now based on this predicament every country that has inhabitants who posses Russian Passports are prone to invasion for what ever reason the Kremlin decides.

The direct result would be that most former USSR countries who disengaged from Russia could be conquered anew as in those places are scores of Russian who where resettled under Stalin, Brejniev et al – which in other words may mean that present day Russia under Putin will go out and conquer all the former communist countries from the Danube to the Amur at will, - just because their Russian passport carrying citizen are mistreated and must obey the laws of the land they live in.

Moldova (which before was part of Romania) could be next as there are hostilities around the Dniester river region where many ethnic Russian reside same would be to eastern Ukraine, the Baltic State and all the “Stans” next will come the former Warsaw pact nations.

A second front has opened in the four-day-old conflict as eight Russian warships docked in a second breakaway region, Abkhazia, Kakha Lomaia, head of Georgia's Security Council, said by telephone. ``They've been bombing Upper Abkhazia,'' he said. ``They hit two villages overnight'' in addition to the border town of Zugdidi, he said. Upper Abkhazia is a Georgian- controlled area within Abkhazia, which also broke away from the Black Sea country in a war in the early 1990s.

Now what has Abkhazia to do with South Ossetia? Nothing except that the Russian want to destroy and conquer Georgia and take over the only free transit route form Central Asia to Europe

..... and this is the answer

In signs of an economic blockade, Russian warships prevented a Ukrainian ship carrying grain and an unidentified oil tanker from docking in the Georgian port of Poti, Economic Development Minister Eka Sharashidze said by telephone. Azerbaijan stopped sending oil to Georgian ports for export because of the clashes, AFP reported, citing Rovnag Abdullayev, head of SOCAR, the country's state oil company.

``This is suffocation of the country,'' Lomaia said. ``An economic blockade like this is very close to genocide.'' Georgia is a key link in a U.S.-backed ``southern energy corridor'' that connects the Caspian Sea region with world markets, bypassing Russia


All in all a very dangerous situation if Russia gains the upper hand then Russia will be even more aggressive in their dealing with the west and force upon a major transfer of wealth form the Western World into the corrupt Russian hands.

By this the ruling party in Russia will achieve what they always strived to achieve a domination of the world, under a totalitarian regime (oops - democracy Russian style)

.... and if any one wonders why crude oil crashed the answer is for all to see - knowing an attack on Georgia is imminent Russia stopped intervening in energy markets and manipulating for higher oil prices

Now any one wonders who started hostilities <GGGG>



To: maceng2 who wrote (38193)8/10/2008 10:30:47 AM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218030
 
I absolutely don't see this as an issue involving the US electoral cycle. There is too much uncertainty.

Oh!Bummer looks good now but there are no guarantees. He will increasingly be seen as an empty suit traipsing through the daisies while mouthing vague but unsubstantial pronouncements, all of which I think will cut his lead. McCain's campaign is not being run by anyone very smart, either. He'll be seen as more of the same-same

A horse race with a razor thin photo-finish, IMO, as usual.

That being the case, the Georgians betting their national future on the resolution of the elections one way or the other is crazy, IMO.