To: marcos who wrote (70241 ) 8/19/2008 5:13:17 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559 Yes Marcos, the human 3D skills such as farrier, carpenter, are likely to remain the most secure investment. Intellectual activities are likely to be superseded by cyberspace and already are on a unit cost basis. By that I mean people tried charging for software, content etc but economies of scale and smart presentation of information meant software and content could be done "free" in exchange for clicking on advertisements. Eudora failed but Gmail succeeded. Pay for content is struggling in the face of Google News and any number of other content providers. I use Linux on my cute little Asus EeePC so Microsoft doesn't clip the ticket and the system is better for my purposes than Vista. Vista crashed me and that laptop is dead in the corner - once bitten twice shy and unless Microsoft makes me good, which they won't, they are forever black-listed. I gave them $thousands over 20 years. No more, I expect. Already Google does a lot of brain function work for me and increasingly I am doing work for cyberspace for small pay. At present people and cyberspace are symbiotic but gradually, most people will become irrelevant to cyberspace just as Africa, the cradle of humans, is irrelevant to New York, London, Singapore and Tokyo. We don't attack them, we just ignore them. Cyberspace won't enslave or attack people, we will simply be irrelevant. Consciousness isn't limited to wet chemistry neurons. Consciousness is the fifth force of the apocalypse [along with gravity, electromagnetic, strong and weak forces]. Without consciousness, it's reasonable to say the others don't exist. They do, but as with Schroedinger's cat, it's a puzzling paradox like those Zen koans. Instant knowledge available here: en.wikipedia.org But while a farrier has a secure job [now that the boom and bust have gone a century ago], I prefer the adventurous exploration into deep cyberspace like oceanic explorers of eras gone by, many of whom never returned. The future is fascinating and fun. Farrier work is nice enough, but nothing would change in a million years if we all did that sort of thing. That's also why commodities are a go-nowhere thing. Sure, they are useful enough to supply farriers and an essential ingredient to build cyberspace and the Biotelecosmictechdot.com new era, but mostly intellectual horsepower, without shoes, is all that's needed. Gold is the most futile of the commodities. It represents stasis, fear, atavism. We the courageous, and probably dead, prefer to go where no man has gone before. Or woman of course, but that goes without saying. Meanwhile, zenbu.net.nz and zenbu.co.nz continue to blaze trails where no woman has gone before. You can go to zenbu.co.nz and see some atavistic Aztecs digging a huge hole in the ground to get gold [and silver etc] at enormous expense. To see the mine, click "satellite" and zoom in for a close look. After digging it up, other Aztecs build bunkers under banks and bury it again, feeling very pleased with themselves. Easter Islanders used to dig rocks, carve Moai and stand them up around the island, which was similarly useful. Note how useful Zenbu is = good for spying from satellites in the sky on the ant-like Aztecs out of idle anthropological curiosity. This data is traveling via Zenbu Wi-Fi into ADSL into fibre and around the world to wherever you are. It can also travel via Qualcomm's EV-DO, HSPA, OFDMA etc. Soon enough it will travel via Globalstar's new constellation to anywhere in or near Earth. Gold can't do that. Gold just sits there for another billion years, winking as TJ puts it. Mqurice