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To: combjelly who wrote (409377)8/22/2008 5:48:29 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1575837
 
Enough time has passed CJ figures he can make s*it up about Reagan - CJ's a lying SOB:

Did Reagan Rely on Racism for victory?

One of the mental and moral weaknesses of the hard left in the United States is the way it reacts to defeat. If it loses, it does not learn. It blames.

This tendency is part of the reason that it manufactures so many conspiracy theories and asserts so many things that just ain’t so. (The far right makes them too, but for different reasons.)

Just as the left learns nothing, it forgets nothing.

Take its 1980 electoral defeat by Ronald Reagan. David Brooks, writing in the New York Times, takes on that old chesnut that Reagan won because he appealed to southern racists.

As it happened, Reagan did not win on racism and campaigned hard for black votes.

Why does this matter now, some 27 years later? Partly because it is now. It is what the left is saying now and it is an attempt to smear all of those who do not agree with it. And, more importantly, it indirectly illustrates why Hillary is going to have a harder time winning the White House than she should.

Here’s what the left refused to learn in 1980: millions of ordinary people were ashamed of the powerlessness of their country as 52 hostages endured torment in Tehran and millions more saw inflation and unemployment galloping like the horsemen of the Apocalypse. They wanted some way out of their plight and they didn’t care if it offended the intellectual elite. Indeed, they were trying to get that elite to rethink its lazy prejudices about American power and economic growth.

If the hard left–which now seems to live at the Daily Kos and the like–had adapted to suit the needs of the middle class, there would have been no Reagan revolution. Since they wouldn’t change their minds, the public turned them out of office. It wasn’t racism that caused the Republicans to rise, it was listening.

Incidentally, the same thing in reverse happened in 2006.

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Jeffrey S. Neher:


One of the few regrets I have in life is that I was not old enough to vote for whom I consider one of the most important presidents this country has had, Ronaldus Magnus(as another great American refers to him). I watched with unusual attention, it appears for a teenager, the general election campaigns of 1980 and 84. To say I was thrilled with the outcome of both would be an understatement. They called him the great communicator, but Reagan always insisted it was the power of the message not the messenger. Reagan understood the greatness of the American people, he understood what they were yearning for. The people only needed a leader with a clear objective, a firm hand and a strong will. Reagan presented his message to the people, and what a brilliantly simple message. I’m going to get govt off your backs by lowering your taxes, I’m going to rebuild the military and we are going to beat the Communists. Three simple but important issues to the people. And how did the people respond? A 44 state landslide followed by a 49 state landslide. We miss you Gipper…….

Nov 11, 2007 - 2:23 pm

Blue Texan:


Welfare queens driving Caddies, states’ rights, young bucks buying t-bone steaks with food stamps — all lies by the hard left!

Reagan never said any of it!!!

And he never opposed the Civil Rights Act!

And he never opposed making Martin Luther King, Jr. Day a national holiday!

All lies! Damn lies!

pajamasmedia.com

BTW I remember very well that Carter did campaign on racial code words though.

Can't find Carter's campaign remarks on preserving "neighborhood character" or something like that, but here is Carter during the busing era:

In Richmond, resistance to the desegregation order is in its seventh week. A white boycott of Augusta, Ga., schools last week left classrooms virtually empty, and Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter endorsed a one-day, statewide boycott to be held next week in sympathy. The Florida legislature drafted an antibusing proposition to be voted on in the March 14 primary.
time.com



To: combjelly who wrote (409377)8/22/2008 6:20:33 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575837
 
CJ, > It is to reassure white voters who still have that stuff floating around in their minds, that it is ok to vote against the uppity black guy.

I guess where you live, you run into more white supremacists than I do.

Where I live, I see black voters reassured that they can play the race card any time they feel like. Tenny Pierce is a great example. "OMG, my fellow firefighters fed me dog food! That's racist, man! I deserve two million dollars!"

Tenchusatsu



To: combjelly who wrote (409377)8/22/2008 9:17:46 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575837
 
They want to make Obama into Mandingo:



To: combjelly who wrote (409377)8/23/2008 7:47:07 AM
From: Taro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575837
 
...he gave speeches in the South and talked about "young bucks"...means a large, young black male.

I thought he meant new money folks ;)

Taro



To: combjelly who wrote (409377)8/23/2008 10:46:53 AM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575837
 
"When he gave speeches in the South and talked about "young bucks", you don't think he was talking about deer, do you? That phrase means a large, young black male. Especially if he is a "strapping young buck""

I used to call myself a young buck, all my white friends who were big and strong call ourselves that.



To: combjelly who wrote (409377)8/23/2008 5:55:27 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575837
 
we should bend over backwards to accommodate their hypersensitivity. "

You are missing the point. It isn't that it offends black voters. That isn't the goal. It is to reassure white voters who still have that stuff floating around in their minds, that it is ok to vote against the uppity black guy. The Republicans deliberately set out to master this stuff with Nixon's Southern Strategy. Reagan honed a lot of the themes. When he gave speeches in the South and talked about "young bucks", you don't think he was talking about deer, do you? That phrase means a large, young black male. Especially if he is a "strapping young buck". Not sure exactly how it started, but I've seen copies of old bill of sale for slaves that used the term. Calling Obama uppity is playing to those exact same people.


Do they not teach in the South why the Dixiecrats jumped ship in the 1960s and migrated to the GOP party? Do they not explain Reagan's southern strategy? Actually, Ten should know better......I think he grew up in MD.