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To: koan who wrote (84068)	8/29/2008 2:12:21 PM
From: NOW	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

you mean like his support for the patriot act? like his principled stance on the telecoms? oh yeah, he is one hard fighter for truth and justice. take of the blinders... the system has offered up the appearance of a choice.

To: koan who wrote (84068)	8/29/2008 4:27:11 PM
From: Little Joe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

Koan: I suspect we are just going to disagree but nonetheless the way I see it America is is trouble and the problem is failed government. 1. We have a "Social Security" system we can't pay for. Just ask any 40 year old how they like paying taxes into a system they don't believe they will ever benefit from. 2. We have a medicare system we can't pay for. 3. We have a prescription drug program we can't pay for. 4. We have a "criminal justice" system, that should be called a "criminal injustice" system 5. We spend more money on education than any country in the world and we produce illiterates. 6. We can't control our own borders. 7. We are taking on military obligations that we are not willing to pay for in blood or treasure. 8. Through our banking system, we are enriching Wall street manipulators and crooks, at the expense decent, hard working people. And that is the short list. Now you tell me how either of these clowns, or for that matter any of the major parties or politicians are going to solve these problems. They are so gutless, they won't even talk about them. Obama and McCain are the solution to nothing, they and their ilk are the problem. Little joe