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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (80996)	8/30/2008 11:44:59 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542134

I find it remarkable that you think "The level of venom here would be astounding . . . if it weren't so typical" but you post on threads like "Obama unfit for comand," where the venom is cubed or more compared to here. Not to mention some of the other RW threads. This one is absolutely tame compared to those. And tends to stick to relevant facts, not wild speculation on, say, Kenyan births or secret Muslim connections and conspiracies. The reason many of us post here is that Dale kicks people out who are venomous. And those who make gratuitous comments about other posters on the thread. Whether those comments are from the left or right.

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (80996)	8/30/2008 11:50:09 PM
From: Rambi	Respond to of 542134

When you agree with something, it's just TRUE; when you don't like what you read, it becomes venom. I kinda thought a post I saw earlier today calling Obama a Pretty Black Boy was slightly over the top, but maybe you don't- one man's venom, another man's truth. I think the mature thing to do is to not read a thread if it upsets you, especially if you can't stop yourself from leaping in and being insulting. Self-control is an admirable trait in these situations. I also have a theory that the level of hostile talk about View and certain posters is an indicator of anger born of fear. What you read here are the same things you will hear for the next few weeks about Palin while everyone tries to figure out who she really is and if she really is qualified or if McCain just made a very rash and ill-conceived or insulting choice. Thus far, I think she is very cool in many ways, but very NOT qualified. Is that venom? Sorry.

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (80996)	8/31/2008 1:32:49 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542134

Not bull crap. I think women should be raising their kids. I take the choice to bring a child into the world seriously. A ball of cells means nothing to me, but a born child means a lot- and if you choose to have one you should, imo, raise it. Clearly you can think that's crap if you want to- but what I think is crap is having a kid and then acting like it's a puppy, and you can give it to anyone to raise. That, imo, is crap. I realize neither the liberals nor the conservatives value real motherhood anymore- but again, devaluing staying home and raising children is real crap. It is, imo, a mother's job to bond with her baby and nourish it and raise it if she has the ability to do it. I know it isn't the lifestyle choice even for people who can afford it, but again, that's crap. And I've always said that. Ms. Palin has zero to do with my views on motherhood- I've been clear on those views for years. When you do have the choice to have a baby, the responsibility for that choice should probably entail more than just popping the kids out. IMO of course. So I hope you know what you can do with your Bull Crap... ................... Ah, and I see I get discussed by you elsewhere- well no wonder you had to creep on over here. Let me tell you, I gave up the law to raise my children, and I gave up a large salary to do it, and I'm 100% glad I did. I have a special needs boy- and I took him to doctors, and to therapy sometimes on a daily basis (for years), and to special playgroups to get him over his disability (for years). And when there was a physical therapist starting a playgroup my kid was first on the list- and guess what? The kid they said at 3 would be institutionalized, and who they said in 2nd grade should never be put in regular ed, and who they said might never master middle school math, is off the charts on the high school tests- 100% in several areas of the STAR test- and a great student now in regular education in high school. So when you talk about me, make sure you get it right. I have been the best mother to my children, and I have done far more than almost anyone else I know. I have been an advocate in a way most parents never need to be, and I have changed careers to support my children. So when you talk about guilt and inadequacy may I suggest you turn your personal insults on someone to whom they might apply, because I am freaking mother of the century. Not that you'd care, but you really ought to know how absolutely positively freaking wrong you are. So when I see someone with a disabled child seeking to run the country rather than mother her child I have a personal reaction to that- and a negative personal reaction, because I've been there, for years and years, I've been there. Of course you wouldn't have known that- even though you felt confident enough to comment on my life. I'm amazed by your personal venom- to someone not a public figure who you do not know and who has never commented on your life and who has no interest in it. I do not give a crap about what kind of parent you are, or if you are one. and if you don't care about the truth of what kind of parent I am, it would be nice if you could just shut up- but alas, probably not possible.