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To: RetiredNow who wrote (2927)9/7/2008 6:44:26 PM
From: PROLIFE1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6579
 
liar. they are dying for themselves every day.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (2927)9/7/2008 6:46:09 PM
From: longnshort3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6579
 
The Japanese didn't want democracy but they are loving it



To: RetiredNow who wrote (2927)9/7/2008 6:53:31 PM
From: Nikole Wollerstein  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6579
 
"Iraq , as Germany and japan before has proved once and for all that we can't shove Democracy down people's throats"
Iraq , as Germany and Japan before,has proven just opposite, Outside force can either suppress democratic development in the country or become a catalyst for democratic development.
Of course not in every country democratic development is possible


"This isn't about Democracy" In Platonic Libs fairy tail there ideal pure goal of every political move.
Earthly reality is more complicated . USA more interested in development of stable democracy in the middle of world oil deposit than in some shit hole in the middle of Africa.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (2927)9/7/2008 10:28:12 PM
From: BEEF JERKEY2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6579
 
Pretty hard to argue Iraq has been a victory if the US ends up with nothing but the high hat from Al-Maliki and Sadr and Iraq cozy's up to Iran.

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Believe it - thats not an unreal scenario. I would bet the Shites want the US Military out as soon as possible so it can settle its score once and for all with the Sunnis and cozy up closer to Iran.

How can any sensible person call that victory for the US?