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To: mph who wrote (267307)9/9/2008 10:25:05 PM
From: gamesmistress1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793999
 
childish Exactly. Here's some fun commentary from Instapundit:

DID OBAMA MEAN TO CALL SARAH PALIN A PIG? It's probably just a slip, but . . . "The crowd apparently took the 'lipstick' line as a reference to Palin."

Reader David Schlosser emails: "This will endear him to all those disaffected Hillary voters." And former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift is calling on Obama to apologize.

All I can say is, some pig.

UPDATE: "Lipstick on a trainwreck."

Plus, Tom Spaulding: "This is a major gaffe from Obama."

ANOTHER UPDATE: Marc Ambinder doesn't think Obama was talking about Palin.

But reader Mark Martin emails: "This was just plain stupid on Senator Obama's part. It must be due to Karl Rove mind rays or something."

MORE: A reader emails: "Surely a man smart enough to be elected president should have foreseen how these remarks would be taken. Don’t Harvard law grads know the impact of words?" Everybody stumbles now and then. I say, don't make any more of it than if McCain had said something similar.

On the other hand, reader Alin Corle emails: "I think if you look at the entire quote, you realize that Obama was referring to Palin in the 'pig' comment. In the next phrase, as reported by Politico.com, Obama referred to 'old fish' wrapped in a paper of change that still stinks, a clear personal attack on McCain. I think both comments taken together are quite outrageous."

Stay tuned.

MORE STILL: Reader Meryl Jefferson emails: "Palin is, quite obviously, getting inside Obama’s head. This was beyond stupid! This will be played by McCain quite easily: Sarah will continue to bait him and he just goes for it. Remember the Wyle E. Coyote/Roadrunner meme that Ann Althouse set up when Palin was first rolled out? Well, she was right!"

Meanwhile, David Winslow invokes Trent Lott and Strom Thurmond:

Seriously, nobody with half a brain thinks Obama was referring to Palin.

But, nobody with half a brain thinks a basic compliment at your friend's 100th birthday party belies veiled racism.

Just saying it would be nice to have these things treated consistently for a change. Consistently sane.

Hmm. As a Lott critic on that issue, I'm not sure how I should take that, but okay. And reader Tim Ryan reads the whole Obama statement and says: "He's a skilled orator, and he brings it all back around to McCain and Palin. It is absolutely clear that he is tying Palin to the Pig and McCain to the Old Fish. He didn't construct this accidentally or innocently. Unless you think that he isn't skilled or smart, and we all know that he is. He tries to create some plausible deniability, but there are only two explanations - he is either a mean-spirited p***, or he's an idiot. And the latter simply isn't true."

Meanwhile, Barry Dauphin writes: "Obama was inelegant in his comment. He was referring to Palin. Although it was not a good comment, getting hysterical about it is not smart. Put it this way, Obama's comment was hardly post partisan. He's usually a better speaker than this. He and his campaign must be quite rattled. They are playing to their base instead of going after independents. Why are they doing that, unless they are worried about their base? Do they have internal polling showing things to be worse for them than the MSM is reporting?"

Yeah, other people are wondering that, too.

And reader Alan Jan calls it "An Obama Macaca Moment. It's the judgement stupid. You've got to be smart enough not to offend African-Americans by dropping a Macaca reference and you cannot drop a Pig reference if you are having problems with women in a presidential race. Could have the same impact as Allen's misstep that cost him a close election."

And here's what Megan McArdle said about Trent Lott: "But it doesn't really matter, does it? In politics we go by what they say, not what they wanted to say."

Charles Austin weighs in: "So let me get this straight, Senator Obama is too smart to call Sarah Palin a pig but not smart enough to realize how bad this comment is going to sound to anyone not basking in the glow of his halo."

And G.M. Roper is mailing Obama some lipstick.

pajamasmedia.com



To: mph who wrote (267307)9/10/2008 7:51:21 AM
From: Oral Roberts4 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793999
 
Not to be crude but there is a lot of distasteful boys locker room humor that involves fish and women. You have to be a complete sexist tasteless moron to mention stinky fish or lipstick on a pig when there is a women involved in the race IMO. If the empty one didn't know what he was saying, whoever wrote that speech sure as hell did. Their pigs pure and simple.