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To: Lane3 who wrote (84086)9/13/2008 1:44:30 PM
From: Katelew  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541853
 
What you have explained is why Christ lumps agnostics and atheists together and treats them as adversaries, equivalent and indistinguishable for his purposes. I understand that notion. That's like my saying that I don't care whether that green pile is collards or kale, I don't want it on my plate. I reject it. All the same to me--inedible.

Your whole post is excellent and well thought out, so thank you.

In this part, I think you're creating a category for a person who believes in God, but not Christ, thus rejects anything Christ said?? Or are you creating a category for people who believe in Christ but find his teachings inedible??

You haven't offered any explanation for why Christ rejecting multiple categories of non-supporters and lumping them together for his purposes somehow makes the categories disappear

From Christ's perspective, they don't exist. So to Christ all categories disappear except for two. Man, of course, can create all kinds of categories and call himself whatever he
wants.

So, if you still want to claim that agnosticism doesn't exist, perhaps there's other scripture out there, more on point...

As far as me claiming anything, there's really no 'me' in all of this. Consider me the messenger, and we are simply debating the message.

but the categories still exist as separate conceptual entities useful for a variety of human purposes. From your, or man's perspective, this would be true. But I think what is implicit in Christ's words is the warning to not be self-deluded by putting ourselves in this man-made construct.