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To: Brumar89 who wrote (269947)9/23/2008 5:18:45 PM
From: Bearcatbob  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793845
 
Brumar - that was the greatest post I have ever seen on SI.

What more is needed? The only risk now is that Obama does not dump him!

Bob



To: Brumar89 who wrote (269947)9/23/2008 5:21:54 PM
From: gamesmistress1 Recommendation  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793845
 
Holy cow. Put Biden's two remarks side by side and you have one KILLER McCain ad. The Obama people are lying through their teeth - telling coal people they're for clean coal and environmentalists we ARE NOT for clean coal.

That ad just writes itself, doesn't it? Then, blast it to all the coal-mining states. Too bad the first debate is on foreign policy. Hasn't Biden put his foot in his mouth there, too? :-/



To: Brumar89 who wrote (269947)9/23/2008 5:29:53 PM
From: SirWalterRalegh4 Recommendations  Respond to of 793845
 
Obama was an IDIOT for picking him!

The Dems are idiots for picking BO.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (269947)9/23/2008 6:02:45 PM
From: gamesmistress3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793845
 
Here's the Obama campaign's response to the the Biden video, plus commentary from Tom Bevan of Real Clear Politics:

Kind of a Big Deal
Posted by TOM BEVAN
time-blog.com

A standard rule of campaign watching is that you can tell how big of a deal something is by how a campaign responds. Do they let it pass? Do they dismiss the issue out of hand with a snarky one-liner? Or do they hit back hard and often, which is an indication the campaign believes an issue potentially "has legs" and might be damaging.

Judging by the Obama campaign's response to Joe Biden's comments on coal, it's clear they think this is kind of a big deal that might possibly hurt. Shortly after the video of Biden began making the rounds just an hour or so ago, the Obama campaign emailed the following statement from David Wade along with three citations of Obama's support for clean coal:

"This is yet another false attack from a dishonorable campaign. Senator McCain knows that Senator Obama and Senator Biden support clean coal technology. Senator Biden's point is that China is building coal plants with outdated technology every day, and the United States needs to lead by developing clean coal technologies. The Obama-Biden comprehensive energy plan will invest $150 billion over 10 years in clean energy technologies, including incentives to accelerate private sector investment in commercial scale zero-carbon coal facilities. The Obama-Biden Department of Energy is committed to developing 5 'first-of-a-kind' commercial scale coal-fired plants with carbon capture and sequestration here in the United States. Last year, Senator Obama passed a bipartisan amendment to triple federal funding towards clean coal. In the White House, they will continue that commitment. If Senator McCain is so committed to clean coal, then why hasn't he joined Senators Obama and Biden in announcing their support for the bipartisan energy proposal before the Senate today that would offer tax credits for clean coal projects? He should explain why his support for tax breaks for big oil outweighs his support for clean coal."

The Obama campaign followed that with a release from Hari Sevugan 12 minutes later titled, "Why is John McCain Putting Oil Company Profits Ahead of Clean Coal Projects?" with a link to this story by Jonathan Allen at Congressional Quarterly.

One final note on Wade's release. The first sentence is quite stunning, given that McCain simply repeated what Biden himself said on camera ("we're not supporting clean coal"). Now, that may have been a gaffe on Biden's part, but there's video proof that he said what he said and it hardly makes the McCain campaign "dishonorable" to point it out.

I think the Obama campaign runs the risk of a backlash by trying to portray McCain as a despicable, dirty, dishonorable guy at every possible opportunity, because that is simply not the way most people around the country view him. It's the opposite, in fact.

And when you create such conflicts in the minds of voters, they will invariably step back at some point and evaluate those conflicting images on the merits. If and when they do, I'm not sure the Obama campaign comes out ahead in that evaluation, especially after the way they've gotten down and attacked McCain of late on immigration and the like.