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To: janski who wrote (11584)10/21/1997 3:39:00 AM
From: Eleder2020  Respond to of 29386
 
Well before I take a shot at Arcxel which by the way has been mentioned on the thread and in particular in reference to Hucom and I don't remember what happened to the discussion of Class 1, with regard to Hucom.But first an Ancor shot at Brocade.

>>>The gigabit-speed MKII is designed for optimal Class 3-2-1 and Intermix performance. All communication support resides in the ASIC for optimal performance in connectionless service - up to twice as fast as Brocade Communications' switch depending on file size. The switch offers the lowest latency and highest Class 3 performance in the industry.

The MKII costs less to own, implement and support than other
high-performance technologies, including competing Fibre Channel
products. Fully loaded, the list price is $2,495 per-port - nearly 20
percent below Brocade and 40 percent less than Gigabit Ethernet
products. With copper media modules, the price is $2,295 per port. The
switch is available without optics for $1,995 per port.<<<<

Cost of ownership should also be considered. The MKII is based on a
proven, ANSI standard technology, making it easier to configure, install and manage. MKII loop ports provide an economical, shared-bandwidth solution for server and small-scale installations.<<<<

Notice the difference in price guys between Ancor and Arcxel.I guess Hucom going into FC in a big way and will no longer carry just one product or vendor. Arxcel Release is very very thin on specs also except that it contains 1/2 the ports of the MK II and no latency numbers. One thing for sure is that Arcxel switches are more expensive then either Brocade or Ancors by a goodly sum.

>>>>The AGS/8 is available immediately and is list priced at $2,950 per port for an eight-port copper unit. Quantity discounts are
available.<<<<<

And yes Ancor will have competition and yes Arcxel will be one of the competitors. This is not a bad thing in the long run and ANCR still looks like the switch leader to me.



To: janski who wrote (11584)10/21/1997 3:49:00 AM
From: Douglas Nordgren  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 29386
 
janski and all,

The Arcxel switch was addressed here when it was first announced July 17 - it wasn't going to ship until Sept, high cost per port (8), latency @ 2 microseconds; we figured it would someday compete with Ancor's as yet unrevealed switch. At that time Craig Stevenson noted that it would bear watching:

exchange2000.com

Arcxel Sept announcement says production in October. Original announcement in July said production in September. Agreement w/Hucom is for sole distribution rights in Japan, amount unspecified, when they ship. Hucom has contracted similar agreement w/Ancor and has already bought and has contracted to buying more (with $ amounts). They are also sole distributors of Emulex in Japan. Obviously, Hucom wants to corner the FC market in Japan by signing sole distribution rights with FC vendors. Anything wrong with that? They will sell whichever switch the customer wants. Given the prices, which do you think will sell?

Hucom OEM agreement is with Transoft for their StudioBoss storage units using Arcxel. Score one for them. Anybody ever heard of Transoft?

In assessing the FC market and Ancor's competition, it would help greatly to read only what is written, not what one fears is written.

C'mon guys, aren't we getting a little gun-shy lately?

G'night,

Douglas