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To: i-node who wrote (422538)	10/5/2008 1:54:51 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 1575427

"Yeah, it is funny how McCain, who has always been considered a centrist, is suddenly a right wing nutjob." It's not funny, it's shameful. In 2000, if McSame had won, I probably would have VOTED for the whore. Since then, it seems like he's decided that to beome president, he's got to shitcan all his "principles" and BECOME a right wing nutjob. He selected Palin, a TRUE right wing nutjob with bible thumpin' credentials, to add to his conversion. The thing is, he's eight years too late. People aren't outraged over Clinton's BJ anymore, and are horrified where they're poor choice THEN has put the country NOW.

To: i-node who wrote (422538)	10/5/2008 2:04:32 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1575427

"Yeah, it is funny how McCain, who has always been considered a centrist, is suddenly a right wing nutjob." He isn't a centrist any more. He started to shift his position several years ago. He now votes with Bush about 90% of the time. "This is symptomatic of a clueless electorate" Nothing clueless about reality instead of just making everything up.

To: i-node who wrote (422538)	10/5/2008 3:01:14 PM
From: tejek	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575427

Palin's Attack On Obama's Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins' Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist By Greg Sargent - October 4, 2008, 4:55PM Sarah Palin attacked Obama's patriotism today over his association with former Weatherman Bill Ayers -- a move that makes it perfectly legitimate to raise questions about the Palins' associations with a group founded by an Alaska secessionist who once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed our "damn flag." In Colorado today, Palin seized on the big front-page New York Times story about Ayers and Obama, which concludes that the two men "do not appear to have been close," to launch her most vicious attack yet on the Illinois Senator -- a harbinger of what's to come. "This is not a man who sees America as you and I do -- as the greatest force for good in the world," Palin said. "This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country." If Palin is going to say this, it is now perfectly legitimate to point out that she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years. As you already know, the group is the Alaska Independence Party, which sees as its ultimate goal seceding from the union. Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska. And though Sarah Palin herself was apparently not a member of this group, there's no doubt that she repeatedly courted this secessionist organization over the years. In 1994, Palin attended the group's annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News' Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group's 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States. The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here's what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He also said this: "And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Vogler has also said: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." McCain apologists will argue that Sarah Palin was not a member of this group. But Obama wasn't a member of any Ayers anti-American group, either. And again, Palin repeatedly courted the AIP, and her husband was a member for years. The main takeaway from today's Times story is that Obama's ties to Ayers are, if anything, less substantial than commonly alleged. So if the Ayers association means Obama "palled around" with "terrorists," as Palin put it today, surely Palin can be said to have "palled around" with a secessionist party whose founder openly professed hatred of America. If Palin is going to directly question Obama's patriotism over his association Ayers, surely all these facts are now fair game and freshly relevant. tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com