SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Technology Stocks : Advanced Micro Devices - Moderated (AMD) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: pgerassi who wrote (256405)10/6/2008 7:18:34 PM
From: Elmer PhudRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Intel has yet to ship anything, but paper and promises.

You are correct there and if that was all there was to it then I wouldn't have posted what I did. The point is that according to the post that started this, AMD promised HT3.1 on Shanghai but can't get it to work properly, so it's just HT1.0 enabled.

Although it’s been pointed out by AMD beforehand, the Shanghai marchitecture is built to operate on a HyperTransport 3.1 bus, although for reasons that AMD is sure to explain later, the first parts will only be HT 1.0 enabled.

As we all know, AMD has a history of promising and then under delivering, if delivering at all. True to form, they won't be shipping Shanghai with what they originally promised, if they even deliver it at all. It's already late, as we all knew it would be.

Intel, on the other hand, has a history of promising and then delivering, or even over delivering. So it's reasonable to expect they will deliver this time as well.

So what difference does it make how great you think HT3.1 will be when AMD can't deliver it?



To: pgerassi who wrote (256405)10/6/2008 9:06:30 PM
From: wbmwRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Re: So far HT3.x has shipped in vast quantities. My dad just got a Phenom 8450 X3 Media Box computer for $499

Unfortunately, all that Hypertransport bandwidth does little for performance, which is why AMD's triple core parts are underperforming some of Intel's dual core parts.

xbitlabs.com

That's probably why those 8450 brown bananas are going into bargain basement $499 PCs.



To: pgerassi who wrote (256405)10/7/2008 10:14:48 AM
From: Joe NYCRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Pete,

I think AMD's problem with HT 3.0 is that it is shipping where it is not needed as much (desktop) and not shipping where it is needed (server).

Joe