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To: mph who wrote (273012)	10/8/2008 12:10:00 AM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 793964

You must have been listening to or reading something different from me. I haven't seen aggression to Pakistan by Obama. His aggression was towards Osama hiding out in an area where Pakistan government authority is dubious at best. John McCain, by comparison, has a secret plan which won't affect Pakistan's territory. If you believe that, I have some sub prime mortgage counter-party insurance assets for sale. As a taxpayer funding the huge expense in Iraq I object to it too. It isn't "whining" to complain. Obama wasn't whining. It might surprise you to learn that a lot of people think the cost of the Iraq war was not worthwhile. If somebody disagrees, it isn't automatically whining. It seemed a dopey idea to me BEFORE the war. There were obviously no or negligible WMDs. In regard to Darfur, he didn't suggest an invading effort like Iraq, he suggested no-fly zones and co-operation with an international effort rather than standing aside. "Wetting his pants" says more about you and your attitudes than Obama's. Mqurice

To: mph who wrote (273012)	10/8/2008 12:12:31 AM
From: KLP	2 Recommendations Respond to of 793964

Re: Obama talks about Darfur and Somalia, etc...Obama talks about humanitarian reasons to go in, but TOTALLY neglects to say, or even think about, the millions of Iraqi people Saddam killed.....murdered by various means - WMD gas, shredding machines, chopped up in pieces and deposited on family's steps, shot and left to die and rot in killing fields, and all the etc's we now know.... What's the difference between Darfur, or Somalia, or Bosnia, etc and Iraq....? He doesn't ever even think that maybe by going into Iraq, we stopped Saddam from taking the oil money, and using it to continue supporting terrorists world wide against America, to say nothing of hoping to establish a democracy that might be not only a beacon of hope in the ME, but if all else failed, would be a place where the US could land to stop Iran from destroying Israel and other places in the ME....