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To: Rambi who wrote (89470)10/10/2008 11:01:35 AM
From: thames_sider  Respond to of 542009
 
I don't think sitting on a board with someone means one tolerates the obscene. The question is legitimate, though. How far do we extend tolerance? Are there boundaries?

I'd say, apparently not.
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As per Shamir, Adams, Paisley, just from recent British history. They've all led terrorist groups and yet all been accepted as statesmen - the last two famously finally shook hands over the NI peace agreement having spent the previous 35 years hating and berating each other even more violently than I do.
And that's without a - what, 15 year, 20-year lapse of time?

If someone is prepared to renounce violence as a political action (note - not even necessarily criticise it, just renounce it) then that seems to be sufficient. And much though I dislike this, it seems to work.



To: Rambi who wrote (89470)10/10/2008 11:10:43 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542009
 
The question is legitimate, though. How far do we extend tolerance? Are there boundaries?

I agree that the question is legitimate. I am of the belief that it's stupid to make enemies when you can avoid doing so. Refusing to associate with someone on principle makes an enemy. So it seems to me that, unless you choose to make a life issue out of that particular principle, you continue to associate until and unless the party forces the choice by trumpeting that which is obscene or drawing you into it.

his lack of perfection was never an issue for me

I think that all politicians are inherently flawed so I don't expect much. <g>

From what we know, I wouldn't put Obama in the bottom half. Nor McCain, for that matter.