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To: longnshort who wrote (67457)10/12/2008 3:20:50 PM
From: thames_sider  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
If he's copying good ideas from someone else, that's a bonus. Sure, it can be regarded as opportunist, but it's the right kind of opportunism IMO for a politician to take the best ideas from others and run with them. Only really dangerous politicians believe that they and they alone have all the answers.

I suppose you could say it makes him less decisive, if he can be swayed to change his mind by better arguments, but I still think flexibility is a bonus if it prevents dogmatic adherence to a road to disaster.

Is that what you mean?
Else I still don't think I follow your point.

<edit>aha. this? ROFL.
news.bbc.co.uk
He also ran for presidency in 1988 but withdrew after he admitted plagiarising a speech by the then leader of the British Labour Party, Neil Kinnock.

I do recall hearing about that at the time, someone copying one of Kinnock's conference speeches or similar, but obviously from the British POV and I'd never heard of the plagiariser.

ye gods. Well, copying the Kinnock of 1987 doesn't say much for his judgment at that time, that's certain. The Welsh Windbag was a genuine socialist, moderate especially by the standards of his party but very LW by Democratic standards, so I'm surprised he was suitable material. Plus he got stuffed by Thatcher that year, so hardly had a winner's mantle.

Still, I imagine he's changed in the past 20 years. He seems not to have repeated that mistake since. It doesn't give me great respect for him, but again if that's the worst thing known of him it isn't a deal-breaker.

My thoughts on Palin...
Message 25048365
and explained more
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Closing thoughts,

And it's this that explains my loathing. She is aiming, accurately, to embody the anti-intellectual. She's the candidate of the downwardly evolving - of people who believe in the gut and not the brain, who fear the "other" and anything new. She's the next step in the Rove-designed politician: she's trying to capture and shape the vote of people who feel and react but cannot, will not think for themselves.

Far more than McCain, she and the movement she represents are the enemy of progress and reason.


I'd prefer Biden to her, by a country mile and then some.