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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (70593)	10/12/2008 5:23:07 PM
From: carranza2	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Did you position your starter cables properly? I am sure you did. Elves as I think Toyota products never have electrical problems. Perhaps the coriolis effect making electricity go counterclockwise. Sounds like a starter motor perhaps gone bad. Most logical reason. But you would have had some warning via grinding and other difficulties. Odd. I surely don't know. I think electricity is voodoo, witchcraft. Absolutely do not understand it.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (70593)	10/13/2008 2:18:36 AM
From: Snowshoe	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Psssst... come on, Mq. We're down to just a small ragtag band of old friends on this thread now, peering out over the desolate landscape from a crumbling watchtower. TJ and Elmat are skulking behind their barricade. Why don't you take a deep breath, relax, and just admit it... ALAN GREENSPAN SCREWED UP!!!

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (70593)	10/13/2008 5:33:38 AM
From: Lee Lichterman III	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

OT Sounds like you have a loose connection most probably your ground wire. Check for corrosion or loose connection for your battery/starter problem. Good Luck, Lee

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (70593)	10/13/2008 3:57:40 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

M, I really think it's absurd to blame him for people borrowing ridiculous amounts of money to buy over-priced houses and bonus-greedy companies lending it, and shareholders thinking it was a good idea and insurers guaranteeing the mortgages. I agree.. There is a problem with the US system and a lot of the problems could be solved with a good long honest look in the mirror.. ... However it is equally absurd IMVHO to laud him for his actions, hold him up as particularly insightful or grant him a knighthood... for his actions.. Greenspan is yet another case of 'smart is not enough'... Blackie