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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (90845)	10/20/2008 11:28:59 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541283

I bet if you ask, no one here will say it's over. Dale comes to his conclusions very mathematically that McCain needs to run the table to win, and is optimistic based on that. I just went and played with the electoral maps and see the same thing, but until I hear that soprano aria, I won't be sure. The rising level of frustration and anger on conservative threads is an indication, and the attacks on anything on the left that moves, also. There is an increasing number of articles from sources that Lindy used to find not acceptable- like NewsMax and WNetDaily. Poor Powell has been eviscerated for his endorsement. Obama, who was not the one to bring up Joe the Plumber nationally, is being blamed for the absurd interest in him, even being credited with the crazy "vetting" of him. Did you know that Joe now has his own favorability rating? That pretty much tells you the level at which some voters are functioning. It makes me despair that anyone took the time to listen to the careful laying out of his reasoning that Powell so responsibly did. Or bothers to read the actual analysis of the health or tax proposals on either side. I am sure it has always been this way and I was just always too busy raising babies and making music to notice. I probably will live longer for that lack of stress, though. But over? I don't think anyone is that confident at all. Mostly just very hopeful.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (90845)	10/20/2008 1:28:31 PM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 541283

Mary - Things are looking good for our man. Most of us realize that something could still happen, and that the election isn't over. During the primaries, you were very gloomy about Obama's prospects of winning states like Pennsylvania, which had gone heavily for Clinton. You didn't think he could win in Michigan. McCain has already conceded Michigan. You didn't think Obama could win over white male voters, or women. Yet polls indicate that he has a significant lead among women, and that in many states he's winning among white men. In Pennsylvania, he's ahead by 15 points in recent polls. Can you consider the possibility that your pessimism is unfounded? Can you allow yourself cautious optimism? - Allen