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To: ManyMoose who wrote (91070)	10/21/2008 12:50:23 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 541201

"Bush asked for and deserved cooperation that would unite the country. He didn't get it." Really? The American presidency is said to be an office in which some incumbents grow and others swell. If ever a president has fallen in the first of these categories it is George W. Bush. Before the suicide bombings of September 11, 2001, even a number of Bush's strong supporters were not persuaded that he was fully up to his responsibilities. Since then, even many of his critics grant that he has become strikingly more presidential. A Gallup poll that was completed a day before the bombing of the World Trade Towers and the Pentagon, found that only 51 percent of the public expressed approval of his presidential performance. Three days after the attacks, Gallup fielded the first of an extended run of polls in which Bush registered approval levels in excess of 85 percent. (1) goliath.ecnext.com The first was the rally phase, when partisan politics were swept aside and Americans focused on the shock and the war to remove the Taliban in Afghanistan. President Bush's job approval rating reached 90% 10 days after the attack, and it did not go below 77% for another eight months. usatoday.com More like the hard working Shrub worked very hard to blow it.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (91070)	10/21/2008 12:52:02 PM
From: Travis_Bickle	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541201

"America deserves to come together." Not in a million years. The republicans threw down the gauntlet, it is too late to un-throw it. I will never forgive them for what they have done.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (91070)	10/21/2008 1:57:15 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541201

MM, given the answers you've offered in this post, I'm puzzled why you came over to the Center thread. As I gather from your responses so far, you are saying to everyone who responds something on the order of, never mind, I've already made my mind up. Everyone here is more than happy to talk with you. But talk is a two way street. You've got to meet us halfway. Let's take the argument for Bush alienating the world. You say the rest of the world alienated you. But if you recall that alienation began to appear, at least seriously. over the Iraq invasion. Much of "the world" argued that such an invasion only made sense of Iraq had WMDs (the Bush administration never established that Iraq had anything to do with 9-11). And it thus supported inspections to settle the matter before invasion. The Bush administration simply wrote them off, accused them, as you have, of cowardice and other such odd arguments for international diplomacy. And, mistakenly, we now see, invaded. It now is quite apparent that the "rest of the world" was right and Bush was wrong. Care to discuss that.