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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (430727)	10/27/2008 11:25:58 PM
From: bentway	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573041

"Of course to a liberal, a man making $47K/year could never hope to own a plumbing business making $250K/year or more." I'd call it a little unrealistic, seeing how he isn't a plumber, loans are extremely difficult to get and the entire country knows he's a liar. I doubt he could swing it in Obama's two terms.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (430727)	10/28/2008 12:50:53 AM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573041

>Of course to a liberal, a man making $47K/year could never hope to own a plumbing business making $250K/year or more. He was clearly talking about buying such a business sometime soon. On $47,000 a year, he couldn't. Not for a long, long time. We're talking about a company that makes $250K a year in profits... which means that it's probably a million or more a year in revenues. How could it be possible? -Z

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (430727)	10/28/2008 1:51:38 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573041

Of course to a liberal, a man making $47K/year could never hope to own a plumbing business making $250K/year or more. What the hell is he going to do with a plumbing business without a plumber's license?

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (430727)	10/28/2008 10:20:30 AM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1573041

Of course to a liberal, a man making $47K/year could never hope to own a plumbing business making $250K/year or more. This really is the point, isn't it? We have several liberals responding to your post claiming, "Oh, that guy making $47K has no chance in hell of succeeding, of accomplishing those goals he has set for himself". As a 7th grader, I watched my dad fight back tears a week after opening his 2nd fast food joint. He had put every nickel he had into that place. At the end of the first week, he had averaged $30/day in sales. With a 9th grade education, he tracked meticulously what sold and what didn't, what it cost to make a burger, and he knew that 10 cent coke cost 4 cents, as long as you put enough ice in it. At 4am, every single day, he's up making donuts -- 20 dozen in the morning, 10 dozen in the afternoon -- to be sold for a nickel apiece. Six years later, the sale of that business -- predominantly on a 7-year note, provided him and mom with a significant chunk of the money they needed to retire. But he had poured his heart and soul into that 2nd business. This is the kind of spirit you find in self-employeds. It may be hard for some wage-and-salary earners to comprehend precisely what that it is about being a business owner that is different. But it is a totally different lifestyle from working for someone else. And people who do it have to have to be driven by different thought processes. People who aspire to start a business don't sit around thinking, "Damn, I can't do that!". If they have those thoughts, they'd best remain as someone else's employee. When you are in business for yourself, there is no passing the buck because it "isn't your job", "I don't have time", "I don't have the money", "It is my day off", or "I'll do it in the morning". It is not that different from raising children in this respect -- the demands are heavy and at times, the rewards are often obscured by the difficulty of it. A man who makes 42K has a lot of choices. He can sit on his ass, he can work hard for the other guy, he can start a business or he buy a business. They're all possibilities. This is what the Left just doesn't get. This is what America is about; it is the most fundamental of the elements of this country. And a lot of us don't want to give that up.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (430727)	10/28/2008 10:32:23 AM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1573041

"I noticed you didn't respond to any of his points shooting down your assumption. No surprise there." Actually, I did. "Of course to a liberal, a man making $47K/year could never hope to own a plumbing business making $250K/year or more." Nonsense. He certainly can hope. With a large degree of justification. But, to increase his income by a factor of 5 in a short period of time is a lottery winning type of event. Or having rich relatives who favor you. We aren't talking about building up a business through hard work. He claimed he was going to buy an existing business. And that takes a lot of scratch.