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To: i-node who wrote (430784)	10/28/2008 10:23:36 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572924

Tell us again how honorable Republicans are....... STEVENS' (AND PALIN'S) NEXT MOVE.... Shortly after a jury convicted Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) on seven felony counts, Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.), head of the NRSC, ostensibly charged with the task of helping Stevens get another term, issued a strongly worded statement. "Ted Stevens served his constituents for over 40 years and I am disappointed to see his career end in disgrace," Ensign said. Oddly enough, Stevens doesn't see it that way. A defiant Sen. Ted Stevens is returning to Alaska on Wednesday to resume his re-election campaign, despite being convicted of felonies that carry the potential of years in prison. [...] Hours [after the conviction], the news had settled in. The guards were gone, the campaign ordered Moose's Tooth pizza for its workers and Stevens' backers started talking about what's next. "I think it will be a battle but we're going to throw every ounce of effort into doing so," said political consultant Art Hackney, who is working on the Stevens campaign. Hackney said it's going to be a "nonstop campaigning, very aggressive," once Stevens gets back to Alaska. Stevens will apparently not be able to even cast a vote for himself, and hopes to become the first convicted felon ever elected to the U.S. Senate. The other angle worth considering here is that of Stevens ally Sarah Palin, who helped run Stevens' political group and who relied on Stevens' support to get elected. Yesterday, even after the verdict, Palin wouldn't say whether or not she plans to vote for Stevens, and declined to say whether she believes he should step down. A.L. argued that this was a missed opportunity that McCain and Palin were foolish to pass up: "[W]hy the reluctance to criticize a man now that is now a convicted felon? Why not call for him to step down? Isn't that a no-brainer? Stevens is going to lose anyway and the McCain/Palin campaign is desperate for some good media coverage. This is right in their wheelhouse. And yet they're not swinging." I'm reminded of something Palin said just a few months ago about Stevens: "I have great respect for the senator, and he needs to be heard across America. His voice, his experience, his passion needs to be heard across America.... There's a big difference between reality and perception [about] our relationship." I don't know what that means, but given yesterday's verdict, I'm looking forward to Palin's explanation. Update: McCain has called on Stevens to resign from the Senate. No word from Palin.

To: i-node who wrote (430784)	10/28/2008 10:29:22 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1572924

Excuse me but plotting to kill someone is not the same as hanging someone in effigy as bad as that is. Its much, much worse! Tenn. GOP chair draws murder plot parallel The chairwoman for the Tennessee Republican Party draws a wild parallel: "Hate is not a political party, policy statement, agenda or ideology - it is a pure evil that no place in civil society," said Robin Smith, Chairman of the Tennessee Republican Party. "Whether it is neo-Nazi skinheads plotting a racist shooting spree targeting Sen. Obama, or West Hollywood liberals hanging Gov. Sarah Palin in effigy and calling it 'art,' or unknown anarchists tossing bricks through the windows of a county Republican headquarters in Murfreesboro, Americans of all political views should be outraged." The Palin effigy was crude, but it's breathtaking to compare that with indictments in a mass murder and assassination plot. The Tennessee Republican Party has been regularly out front, and occasionally chided, in its anti-Obama talking points, but this one seems to go a bit further. The ATF's filings in that case are now online, and describe the skinheads as quite scary and dangerous, but much closer to their mass murder plans than to the presidential candidate

To: i-node who wrote (430784)	10/28/2008 12:06:44 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572924

Inode, > We have several liberals responding to your post claiming, "Oh, that guy making $47K has no chance in hell of succeeding, of accomplishing those goals he has set for himself". Thanks for the story, Inode. I know about plenty of stories where people making around $47K/year worked their asses off before they could own a small business. My in-laws are one of them. A close friend of mine also has parents who were in that situation. They all reflect the spirit and the stress that comes from owning your own business. Of course, none of these small business owners got to where they were without help. Friends, family, neighbors, people they met at the local church, etc. The libs on this thread are correct that you will never move up in the world if you just consider a $47K/year income, but that's where their argument ends. What's really confusing to me is how the liberals fool themselves into believing their own nonsense. I think many of them have had life experiences that aren't too much different than those you and I and people we know have gone through. Yet they will convince themselves that Joe the Plumber could NEVER hope to own a plumbing business before they even dare to think about how Obama might not be the "messiah" they were looking for. Tenchusatsu