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To: Katelew who wrote (94719)	11/7/2008 11:28:24 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541387

>>I agree with Obama who said that he felt marriage should be between a man and a woman. If it's good enough for my President, it's good enough for me. Is he trying to force his views on others or just stating what he personally believes?<< Kate - If he just makes the statement, obviously he's only stating a belief. If he were to endorse a Constitutional Amendment to deny the right of marriage to homosexuals, then he'd be trying to force his views on others. The distinction is clear. Whether or not it's a matter of preserving the status quo, denying the right to marry to homosexuals is promoting unequal treatment under the law. Our current President believes there should be a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between one man and one woman. The fact that he's the President doesn't make his opinion any more worthwhile than mine. The same can be said of our President-Elect. As for your argument that you don't want to give legal legitimacy to something you see as a sin, I can understand what you're saying. However, homosexual relationships are not illegal. Nor is homosexual sex, with the exception of a very few archaic laws that may still be on the books in some states, but which are never enforced. In not allowing gays to marry, therefore, the thing you are not giving legal legitimacy to is fully committed relationships between homosexuals, and the basic privileges of inheritance, hospital visitation, etc., between them. - Allen

To: Katelew who wrote (94719)	11/8/2008 8:07:15 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 541387

Is he trying to force his views on others or just stating what he personally believes? Perhaps what he was saying was simply that he doesn't want to see this issue blow up on him. Or something more thoughtful and subtle, like what has been expressed on this thread where marriage becomes the provenance of religion and the state manages civil partnerships, which would be the vehicle for conveying legal rights. It doesn't necessarily imply that he disapproves of gay family relationships.