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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: RMF who wrote (55648)11/18/2008 7:25:02 AM
From: lorne2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224648
 
RMF...."I just think the main problem was letting this GIGANTIC "iceberg" of credit derivatives (credit default swaps) lie hidden without any type of regulation.".....

I can agree with that and it appears you are trying to fix blame for the economic mess so maybe you should direct your efforts to what may be the real cause.

Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Lawrence Summers and the Cost of Doing Business via the Old Boys Network
Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 1:14 pm — admin
--an Old Boys Network that Cost America Plenty, so why is Obama reprising these guys??
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On October 9th 2008, the New York Times ran an article titled “Taking a Hard Look at a Greenspan Legacy. The story begins with this 2004 Greenspan Quote:

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“Not only have individual financial institutions become less vulnerable to shocks from underlying risk factors, but also the financial system as a whole has become more resilient.” — Alan Greenspan in 2004
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Then the Times gives us these Lede grafs:

"George Soros, the prominent financier, avoids using the financial contracts known as derivatives “because we don’t really understand how they work.” Felix G. Rohatyn, the investment banker who saved New York from financial catastrophe in the 1970s, described derivatives as potential “hydrogen bombs.”
And Warren E. Buffett presciently observed five years ago that derivatives were “financial weapons of mass destruction, carrying dangers that, while now latent, are potentially lethal.”

One prominent financial figure, however, has long thought otherwise. And his views held the greatest sway in debates about the regulation and use of derivatives — exotic contracts that promised to protect investors from losses, thereby stimulating riskier practices that led to the financial crisis. For more than a decade, the former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has fiercely objected whenever derivatives have come under scrutiny in Congress or on Wall Street."
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Then Now, let’s skip ahead to the MEAT of the story, found after the Jump to page A29, and under this subhead:
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Resistance to Warnings:

“In 1997, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, a federal agency that regulates options and futures trading, began exploring derivatives regulation. The commission, then led by a lawyer named Brooksley E. Born, invited comments about how best to oversee certain derivatives.
Ms. Born was concerned that unfettered, opaque trading could “threaten our regulated markets or, indeed, our economy without any federal agency knowing about it,” she said in Congressional testimony. She called for greater disclosure of trades and reserves to cushion against losses.
Ms. Born’s views incited fierce opposition from Mr. Greenspan and Robert E. Rubin, the Treasury secretary then.”

More:
“Greenspan told Brooksley that she essentially didn’t know what she was doing and she’d cause a financial crisis,” said Michael Greenberger, who was a senior director at the commission. “Brooksley was this woman who was not playing tennis with these guys and not having lunch with these guys. There was a little bit of the feeling that this woman was not of Wall Street.”

More:
“In early 1998, Mr. Rubin’s deputy, Lawrence H. Summers, called Ms. Born and chastised her for taking steps he said would lead to a financial crisis, according to Mr. Greenberger.”

More:
“On April 21, 1998, senior federal financial regulators convened in a wood-paneled conference room at the Treasury to discuss Ms. Born’s proposal. Mr. Rubin and Mr. Greenspan implored her to reconsider, according to both Mr. Greenberger and Mr. Levitt.
Ms. Born pushed ahead. On June 5, 1998, Mr. Greenspan, Mr. Rubin and Mr. Levitt called on Congress to prevent Ms. Born from acting until more senior regulators developed their own recommendations. Mr. Levitt says he now regrets that decision. Mr. Greenspan and Mr. Rubin were “joined at the hip on this,” he said. “They were certainly very fiercely opposed to this and persuaded me that this would cause chaos.”

Ms. Born soon gained a potent example. In the fall of 1998, the hedge fund Long Term Capital Management nearly collapsed, dragged down by disastrous bets on, among other things, derivatives. More than a dozen banks pooled $3.6 billion for a private rescue to prevent the fund from slipping into bankruptcy and endangering other firms.
Despite that event, Congress froze the Commodity Futures Trading Commission’s regulatory authority for six months. The following year, Ms. Born departed.

In November 1999, senior regulators — including Mr. Greenspan and Mr. Rubin — recommended that Congress permanently strip the C.F.T.C. of regulatory authority over derivatives."

Mr. Greenspan, according to lawmakers, then used his prestige to make sure Congress followed through. “Alan was held in very high regard,” said Jim Leach, an Iowa Republican who led the House Banking and Financial Services Committee at the time.”

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FemiSex:
America finds it so very easy to adopt this High Regard for men. Greenspan, during the 90s was a God-like creature to so very many. Infallible to the plebiscite and regents alike, who followed lockstep after this God-Man.

Now we have another God-Man, Barack Obama as “the One” to be followed. I find it interesting, to say the least, that Obama has brought back Mr. Robert Rubin and Mr. Larry Summers to “stabilize the financial system and turn the economy around,” per Camp Obama.

I find it interesting that Larry Summers, the man who as president of Harvard said that women are just not as smart as men, was so clearly outsmarted by a woman.
Larry-only-penises-can-think Summers Should have slunk off into the sunset after being booted from Harvard for his imbecilic remark. Instead Mr. Barack Obama has tapped him for economic advice!

Hmmm, Larry, that was an excellent 3 a.m. call you made to Ms. Brooksley Born, warning her off saving the American Economy!
Great Job, Penis Head!
What was it you said to Ms. Born?? Oh yeah…She “would create a financial crisis.” That is what you told her. Great Job, and now like a Wall Street CEO, rewarded for failure, you Larry have been given the gigantic bonus….a place on Barack’s econ team!

Psst…Mr. Larry-only-penises-can-think Summers…FemiSex has some news for you: The government now owns our banks, we are a nationalized system at present and this may all stem from the Root of your and Mr. Greenspan’s and Mr. Rubin’s penis luvn’ system of economic advisement.

Psst Barack, this team of yours is a FLAWED team, but you are ONLY good at copy-catn’ what other’s have done rather than solid policy-making of ur own. Psst, Barack...copy-catn' Bill Clinton for the 21st century is not going to work! Psst, Barck, you even get the bene of hindsight, but still want Summers and Rubin? How bout bringn' back Greenspan as well?

So…. Barack has got Summer’s back, giving him new life too screw things up again via flawed judgement. So Barack has Summer’s back covered and Summer’s has Barack’s back covered, but…who has America’s back??????
And what women will be the next to call out a coming crisis only to be told by Barack’s TEAM, Shut the Hell up, Woman!

Update:
A Robert Rubin quote on Born pubished in the Oct. 15th in Washtington Post:
"Rubin, in an interview, said of Born's effort, "I do think it was a deterrent to moving forward. I thought it was counterproductive. If you want to move forward . . . you engage with parties in a constructive way. My recollection was, though I truly do not remember the specifics of the meeting, this was done in a more strident way."

FemiSex: Strident. Rubin helped to collaspe the world markets because he didn't like a woman speaking in strident terms. Strident, catch word for any women who refuses to pander to male penis ego. If only the world lost its sexism and strident was not a way to make smart women go AWAY! Strident, the women who gave women the vote, and birth control, and reproductive non-slavery, strident all!
Isn't it REALLY strident to force the world markets to their knees b/c of your fragile male ego? That Rubin is STRIDENT!



To: RMF who wrote (55648)11/18/2008 7:26:11 AM
From: lorne2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224648
 
RMF...Along the same tract..

Rubin's crowning achievement was the repeal of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act, which had separated largely unregulated and more speculative investment banks like Goldman Sachs from government-supervised and -insured commercial banks like Citi, which play a key role in the nation's monetary policy. Glass-Steagall was designed to prevent the kinds of speculative conflicts of interests that pervaded Wall Street in the 1920s and helped bring about the Great Depression (and reappeared in the 1990s).

Financier Sanford Weill gradually assembled the empire of insurance, commercial-banking, and investment-banking pieces that ultimately became Citigroup, helped by indulgent regulatory policies promoted by Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and Rubin. When Congress formally repealed Glass-Steagall, in November 1999, the act was termed in some circles the "Citigroup Authorization Act." Rubin had stepped down as treasury secretary that July. His new job, announced in late October, was chairman of Citi's executive committee. Rubin's initial annual compensation was around $40 million.

As a top Citigroup executive, Rubin uses his unequaled Democratic contacts to resist reregulation. In a recent interview, I asked Rubin whether he saw any need for tighter regulation of hedge funds, the massive, nominally private investment funds that enjoy a wholesale exemption from the system of financial disclosure that has kept financial markets tolerably transparent since the New Deal. "I don't know why you would single out hedge funds," Rubin replied, in a sincere tone that suggested genuine puzzlement at the question. Why, indeed? Citigroup has hedge-fund and private-equity subsidiaries, lends to hedge funds, places trades for hedge funds through its brokerage affiliates, and works with hedge funds through its investment-banking arms. "There is an immense [regulatory] cumbersomeness that we've created in corporate America," Rubin added. "It's not just that it's costly; it's the deterrent effect that it's created on people's willingness to take risks."

In presidential politics, Rubin is personally close to Hillary Clinton, but this trader covers his bets. His son, Jamie Rubin, is a major Wall Street fund-raiser for Barack Obama. His former deputy chief of staff, Karen Kornbluh, is Obama's chief domestic policy adviser, and Rubin is also close to Obama's chief of staff, Steve Hildebrand, who used to hold the same position for former Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle, another Rubin ally.

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To: RMF who wrote (55648)11/18/2008 7:28:55 AM
From: lorne2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224648
 
RMF....And here is something that could be worrisome to some people...it is unfortunate that IMO the majority of voters don't look into these things but vote on personality and media hype.

October 18th, 2008
Obama and the Derivatives Merchants

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By: Glen Ford - Black Agenda Report

Barack Obama's star shines brighter than ever (whose wouldn't, in comparison to John McCain?) despite his intimate association with "the very same individuals who brought about the current catastrophe." Former Clinton Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers, now top advisors to Obama, "labored successfully to safeguard ?derivatives,' the exotic ?ticking time bomb' financial instruments, from federal regulation" nearly a decade ago. "Be assured that this crew will deliver another catastrophe from their positions of influence, if Obama is elected."

How bizarre it is to observe Obama playing the people's crusader in the morning and colluding with his top economic advisers, Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers, in the afternoon. In February 1999, Rubin and Summers flanked Fed Chief Alan Greenspan on the cover of Time magazine, heralded as, "The Committee to Save the World." Summers was then Secretary of the Treasury for Bill Clinton, having succeeded his mentor, Rubin, in that office. Together with Greenspan, the trio had in the previous year labored successfully to safeguard "derivatives," the exotic "ticking time bomb" financial instruments, from federal regulation. Less than a decade later, unregulated derivatives would expand - like the Mother of All Bubbles - to notional values 10 to 15 times greater than the world's total economic output. The global order would be brought to its knees, in a financial conflagration that has just begun to show its full dimensions and destructive potential. (See New York Times, October 9, "Taking Hard New Look at a Greenspan Legacy,")
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