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To: LindyBill who wrote (2105)	11/23/2008 12:44:11 PM
From: Alastair McIntosh	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39304

You seem to be overly concerned with being over-weight, IMO. The following study that suggests that among men with symptoms of heart disease, those who are obese tend to live longer than their normal-weight counterparts. amjmed.com Abstract Purpose The paradox of obesity in patients with heart failure (HF) also has been observed in non-HF veteran patients. Veterans had to have met military fitness requirements at the time of their enlistment. Therefore, we assessed the relation of body mass index (BMI) to mortality in a clinical cohort of non-HF veterans, adjusting for fitness. Methods After excluding HF patients (n=580), the study population comprised 6876 consecutive patients (mean age 58 [±11] years) referred for exercise testing. Patients were classified by BMI category: normal weight (BMI 18.5-24.9 kg/m2), overweight (BMI 25.0-29.9 kg/m2), or obese (BMI =30.0 kg/m2). The association between BMI, fitness, other clinical variables, and all-cause mortality was assessed by Cox proportional hazards analysis. Results During a mean (±SD) follow-up of 7.5±4.5 years, a total of 1571 (23%) patients died. In a multivariate analysis including clinical, risk factor, and exercise test data, higher BMI was associated with better survival. Expressing the data by BMI category, obese patients were 22% less likely to die (relative risk [RR]=0.78, 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.69-0.90, P<.001) than patients of normal weight. After further adjustment for cardiorespiratory fitness (CRF), this relationship strengthened such that mortality risk for the obese category was 35% lower (RR=0.65, 95% CI, 0.57-0.76, P<.001), versus the normal weight category . Conclusions As has been observed in HF patients, obesity was associated with a substantially lower mortality risk in a clinical population of non-HF veterans. Higher CRF and obesity in later life may account for an obesity paradox in this population.

To: LindyBill who wrote (2105)	11/23/2008 6:00:40 PM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 39304

LB, We are going though a revolutionary change in the way we look at nutrition. Gary Taubes book, "Good calories, Bad Calories," is a bore to read, but it gives an excellent rundown on nutrition advice over the centuries. The first published diet advice came out in the 1850s. Cut back on starches and sweets. It worked. Then, in the 1950s, Cardiologists discovered lipids and the importance of Cholesterol. You are right about the book being on the boring side, but it goes to great lengths to point out that the "low fat" approach is not really supported by scientific evidence (or the results). Joe

To: LindyBill who wrote (2105)	11/23/2008 9:29:42 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39304

I cut out all wheat, corn and refined sugar products. I am never hungry, and I average a pound a week loss. i keep my weight within 10 lbs. of my ideal ....but have found as i age, controlling the fat percentage is more and more difficult... what i have noticed is if i just take a spoonful of walnut oil or olive oil when i have a snack craving, how much my appetite is suppressed. don't know if there is any scientific evidence for this, but the 'richness' of the oil (and walnuts or pecans) really drives down my hunger

To: LindyBill who wrote (2105)	11/24/2008 1:51:49 AM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39304

So I assume I can use Splenda or Agave as a substitute sweetener without detrimental effects as long as I use them in moderation? I don't use much sweetener, and have decided to limit my intake of wheat and corn severely.