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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (70795)12/1/2008 1:34:04 AM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Might be interesting to calculate what tonnage of copper it takes to support one four-ounce cellphone ... you'd have to make some assumptions, here's one - cellphone being a luxury item, people have already bought and paid for house wiring, electric lights, refrigerator, quite a number of kitchen and entertainment gadgets, motorcar and/or a good public transit system etc ... which means a whole grid out there to support that, it would add up to a lot ... not meaning here to signify importance of one over the other, it's more the use of copper as leading indicator of upward standards of living ... other metals as well - the chinese use far less zinc, vanadium, molybdenum, chromium, etc in their steel than do western nations, which means it doesn't last as long and is weaker and/or less suited to specific uses

No nation ever industrialised for very long without severe setbacks along the way, seems like it could be about time for the chinese, but how could you ever tell until things got bad enough for newsworthy results to show up, they'd clearly find it quite easy to keep lying under a totalitarian system up to the point where cracks start to show, civil unrest begins and then what - direct the wrath of the populace outwards, whip up war fever against some other place and give the unemployed 18-to-35 year olds jobs invading it

Our neighbours really passed up a chance this year too - youtube.com