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To: Road Walker who wrote (437592)	12/2/2008 2:31:19 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573980

"So why do so many people think they are trash? That's not a marketing problem?" Precisely. Except for my long lamented TR-6, I have owned only American cars. It takes a little footwork, but it can be worth it.

To: Road Walker who wrote (437592)	12/2/2008 3:27:24 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573980

>>> 3000 people use the job bank, not exactly an enormous issue. According to Forbes, GM pays $350 PER VEHICLE for employees who aren't working. Rather than address your post, I'm going to provide a link that pretty much summarizes, ACCURATELY, the situation. mises.org On second thought, that excellent article is worth posting in its entirety.

To: Road Walker who wrote (437592)	12/2/2008 4:28:09 PM
From: tejek	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573980

So why do so many people think they are trash? That's not a marketing problem? He's already admitted that he will not buy a GM car because of some bad experience with one. But in his world, that had nothing to do with mgmt and everything to do with the unions. American cars are crappy because their plants are unionized. End of story.

To: Road Walker who wrote (437592)	12/2/2008 9:59:21 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1573980

>>> Listen to the people on this thread bash US cars as trash. Even today, people bash Hyundais as "trash" -- even though they're one of the best cars available in America today. The fact is they WERE trash. Yet, Hyundai seems to be doing okay, even thought they're selling vehicles at lower prices than almost any other major manufacturer. How's that work? The answer, of course, is that labor costs are controlled (after all, steel and plastic are world commodities). GM's "marketing problem" due to perception is NOTHING compared to what Hyundai has had to overcome. The difference is that Hyundai is able to control (perhaps to an extreme) their labor costs. This libshit is easy, as Steve would say. I'm actually getting TIRED of running over you guys on this topic. Can we move on to something where you're at least a TAD competitive? Global warming? Energy? The war in Iraq? Anything. I'm tired of kicking your asses all over the place on this subject.