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To: peter michaelson who wrote (15)12/17/2008 7:32:11 PM
From: peter michaelson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 161
 
I chanced upon Morningstar's discssion board on CEF's today. The quality of the discussion seems pretty high.

socialize.morningstar.com

One point made there recently is that the ratings scale for municipal bonds is tougher than for corporates. Thus, an A rated muni might be equivalent in risk to an AA or even AAA corporate.

"Common sense fix for muni bonds"
If muni bonds got the ratings they deserve, we wouldn't need to bail out the bond insurers. We wouldn't need bond insurers at all.
By Jon Birger, senior writer
NEW YORK (Fortune) -- What the municipal bond market needs most is not an injection of capital into the bond insurance companies. What it needs is an injection of common sense into its credit rating system.

The simple truth is that the overwhelming majority of tax-exempt bonds issued by states and cities deserve a triple-A credit rating without any bond insurance, given their historically minuscule default rates.

The only way Fitch, Moody's and Standard & Poor's can justify denying them a triple-A is by applying a completely different ratings standard to munis than they do to other kinds of debt. Consequently, the bond market winds up with crazy situations in which, for example, State of California bonds are rated triple-A when the state sells taxable bonds to foreign investors but single-A when California sells tax-exempt (but otherwise identical) bonds to muni investors in the United States"

money.cnn.com



To: peter michaelson who wrote (15)12/17/2008 7:40:40 PM
From: KyrosL  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 161
 
There is a rating table for VTA bonds in the annual report, page 27. The average rating seems to fall between B and BB.

Buy VTA only if you think that this week's Fed actions put a bottom in junk bonds.