To: mishedlo who wrote (91937 ) 12/23/2008 4:52:26 PM From: Sunny Jim 1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555 Looks like the FED will be the lender, owner, and ultimately consumer of last resort. Bernanke is bound and determined to prove his theory that lack of money was the cause of the great depression, so he's going to throw money at anything that won't move to try and avoid another great (or even greater) depression. Today it's cars, tomorrow, it'll be big screen TVs and IPODs. We keep hearing how this is the worst economic downturn since the great depression which set the bar for the period of history that everyone remembers and relates to. What they are failing to compare is the world then versus the world now. Then the world had far more natural resources for the level of population and the potential for growth then far exceeded what the world has today. Today we have billions more people and far fewer natural resources per capita. Plus the world has just been on what was the biggest consumption binge in the history of the world - in general we're not wanting for things because we already own them for the most part (or the banks do via the consumers' debt<G>). Our standard of living has grown steadily and most everyone was pretty happy until, well the past year when it all seemed to come unglued. I would pose the hypothesis that the situation in today's world makes it a virtual impossibility that the world economy can be stoked back to the obese level that it was running at in the peak of the credit bubble. While all the policy makers want to pin the tail on the credit donkey as the solution, the reality is the world doesn't have the resources to sustain the level of economic activity that we have just seen and yearn to go back to. I would further hypothesize that we've hit peak standard of living just like we've hit peak oil. Granted we have had technological evolution that has given us a much improved standard of living and the evolution will always continue, but we're well down the curve of that evolution. We are not at the forefront just poised to burst into a new explosion of technological breakthroughs. The politicians are acting like, gee all we need to do is redirect (throw) resources to technological innovation and, voila, it will happen. Of course I'm opinionated in this regard, but I've watched development of fuel cells for example in the past 15 years with total disappointment at the progress in commercializing them. They, like a lot of other "future" energy prospects, sound great until money gets poured into them and reality hits that the breakthroughs are extremely hard to come by. My point being that increased standard of living is going to be extremely hard to come by via technological breakthroughs. I guess to sum it up, we need to enjoy the next few months (years?) as money is thrown at the world's problems and people hope and dream of returning to yesteryear. When reality hits that the world is running out of resources and we're going to have to settle for less, all hell will break loose. It's totally un-American to even think let alone say such a thing. Sunny(Gloomy) Jim, PS: I should explain that I'm snow bound today, got cabin fever bad, the sky is grey, and my thoughts match the weather. I guess I just got tweaked into writing something based on Mish's post about the money that the FED is throwing at the problems.