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To: koan who wrote (47713)12/23/2008 3:17:06 PM
From: ChinuSFO  Respond to of 149317
 
"we will help you with aids if you renounce your religion and adopt Christianity"!!

I haven't read anything like that about him. But if that is true, he could do so towards gay marriages as well.



To: koan who wrote (47713)12/23/2008 3:35:11 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
help not freely given but given with preconditions is not help but extortion.

some people and countries and peoples distrust missionairies because... uhm... oh, ya, the history books are full of reasons, as, sadly, are current events.

jesus, that i know of in my reading of texts, never once extorted anyone for a pass to heaven and certainly not for a meal. it was he given water when he thirsted by a woman who asked nothing in return, and for that he blessed her. She was a model of all he thought people could and should be, unlike like those who jealousy held a key to paradise and made you jump through hoops for it.

btw, no idea what 3-deminsional thinking is. smile. but then I don't what the heck triangulation means, either.



To: koan who wrote (47713)12/23/2008 3:37:06 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh  Respond to of 149317
 
Warren completely discounts the altruistic work on aids by secular humanists.

indeed. and he says those who practice a social gospel (which just sounds like jesus-like to me... ya know... the guy who made bunches of bread for the hungry <while asking nothing in return>) are Marxists.

don't be dissing humanists or humanists securalists. quite annoys me.