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To: combjelly who wrote (444281)	1/3/2009 11:14:56 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576184

I am sure the israelis have made improvements. I dont think hamas is anywhere as strongly positioned as hizbolla. I am not sure israel is going to attack gaza on the ground. There is a psych war aspect to all of this. But i guess if no one steps up and says they will run gaza or supply gaza with peacekeeping troops to prevent rocket attacks on israel, we will find out soon enough how strong hamas is and whether IDF is more prepared. Pals arent stupid and you would think as angry as they are at Israel, there would be significant numbers of gazans who know in their heart that hamas started this with the rocket attacks. This is more clear than 06. In 06 there was a catalyst with the hizbolla attack on an israeli unit. Not a good thing but israel could have responded more proportinally. I dont think rockets were being fired regularly into israel before the war started. Here its thousands of rockets. I didnt pay much attention but in retrospect how did israel wait so long before responding in force to thousands of rockets?

To: combjelly who wrote (444281)	1/3/2009 11:31:51 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576184

IDF has effective countermeasures against IEDs. A lot has been learned about how to defend against them. They also have access to some of the vehicles our military uses -- MRAPs/RG31, Buffalos, others. I don't know whether they would use them until IEDs became a problem, but they're there if they need them.

To: combjelly who wrote (444281)	1/3/2009 12:50:10 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 1576184

I've got the idea that Hamas is not anywhere near as disciplined, good or as prepared as Hezbollah. But, put the Israelis on the ground in Gaza city, and any kid with an AK and a head shot can kill an IDF soldier. They'll take casualties if they go in.

To: combjelly who wrote (444281)	1/3/2009 3:38:14 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576184

Now, apparently, the IDF has managed to convince themselves that the failures in Lebanon was due to insufficiently training and tactical mistakes made by tank crews. And, maybe they are right. But, if Hamas has some of the weapon systems fielded in Lebanon, plus the likelihood there are IEDs in all of the roadways, training may not be enough. One of the two Merkava Mk 4 tanks totally destroyed in Lebanon was due to a large IED. Now, I don't know if that tank had the V-shaped belly armor or not, but there was one Merkava so equipped that resulted in a crew member dying. Personally, I would expect Hamas to field a lot of IEDs as a result. I have a suspicion that Hamas is more capable than Hezbollah.....in fact, I think Israel truly fears Hamas. I hadn't realized it but Israel has started its ground invasion.