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To: Barnabus who wrote (9071)	10/23/1997 3:24:00 PM
From: Jack Zahran	Respond to of 39621

>>Do you see any merit in theistic evolution? I hope you don't mind me jumping in, but I'm avoiding the market today and have time on my hands. Why should a compromise with the evolutionists be necessary. The Bibles creation account stands on its own merits and scientific facts support it. The scientific method supports the principle of intelligent design. Evolution does not even follow the rules of the scientific method, hence evolutionists come up with revisions to the theory every few years, there is more debate within the evolution community then between evolutionists and creationists. No one appraches a major project without extensive design first, even minor work requires some mental forethought if it is to be successful. How many intricate designs are imitations of God's designs. If even one human gene is messed up, life is threatened or deformed. Notice how medical science is moving to correct health problems: They compare defective genes to normal ones to determine what went wrong. Can they do this if we weren't programmed in a consistent and clear nature? The more man learns about the creation the more they honor God, the Creator. The basis of evolution was and still is purely observational. (Man kind of looks like a Monkey but a little better so Man evovled from the Monkey). (A single cell creature is less complex than multiple cell organisms so there you have evolution.) That's basically it. The Fossil record doesn't even support Evolution. Scientific facts tell us that a single cell creature contains the same and sometimes more complex genetic design than the supposedly more advanced multiple cell organisms. Using Evolutions line of reasoning then are we to conlude that Apes evolved from Humans. You see how weak the evolution theory is. Where is that missing link anyway? Never found it, because it doesn't exist. Evolution is a theory that was developed by the sametype of people who didn't wash their hands when they operated. A people who bled other people to cure the common cold. Evolution was founded at a time when the scientific community was at odds with established religion. It's interesting to note the Marx was a firm believer in evolution, the perfect theory to support his aetheistic political theories. Scientists hated religion then and Darwins theory was easy to accept because it freed them from those religions that were misrepresenting God. It is interesting to note that some of the greatest Scientists including Einstien were great believers in GOD.

To: Barnabus who wrote (9071)	10/23/1997 5:15:00 PM
From: pz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Jack, Yes, I do. Paul

To: Barnabus who wrote (9071)	10/23/1997 6:35:00 PM
From: Lee Bush	Respond to of 39621

Jack: Again, I get back to the main point that however God did it, it was He that did it. It very well may be that God put a system in place whereupon life as we know it emerged through an evolutionary process. However, I also believe that there were points at which God intervened in this process to shape it, and accellerate the development of certain families, perhaps. One good argument against evolution is the fact that the process as we observe it today takes a very long time to produce meaningful changes in life forms. There does not seem to be enough time at given rates to achieve the diversity of life that we see today. So, rates must have varied through prehistory. An example of a very sudden change is the demise of the dinosaurs and many other life forms during the Messozoic Period. We know that many life forms became extinct during this Period, apparently due to a cataclysmic event or events. At one time, this idea was pooh-poohed by the scientific community, but now is a generally accepted fact. An asteroid struck the region near Yucatan, and that huge impact crater is still there! So, God permitted an asteroid or asteroids to strike the earth and exterminate many life forms. Why? Would you like a T Rex for a neighbor? I would not. Even more amazing is the change in cro magnon man 10,000 years ago. Suddenly this creature knows how to make tools, use fire, bury his dead, and develop many new technologies. I believe God intervened at this point in prehistory to 'breathe His Spirit into man'. An interesting conjecture would be the effect upon the earth of Satan's banishment. He was 'thrown down' to earth, the Scriptures say. Would that explain the upheaval this ole' earth experienced during the Mesozoic? Now I have really gone out on a limb. Just some wild ideas. Certainly not Gospel, and I don't teach this EVER in SS classes. Some day I hope to see a replay of creation. I believe we will have the opportunity to see that, farther along. But then, we may no longer be interested in such 'mundane' matters. Bottom line: A process of evolution may have been used by God to produce life forms on the earth, but it was 'supervised' by an all-powerful, loving, and omnipotent God. God bless, Lee