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To: combjelly who wrote (453297)	2/2/2009 11:52:56 AM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571365

Pork-laden bills was your hallmark when you controlled Congress. Silly post. I don't think i-node was in Congress over the last eight years nor was I....and many of us voiced our disgust with the profligate spending that both parties and the President acquiesced in over that time period.... Pork is pork. The fact that some items may not be shockingly large is no excuse. Taken as a whole this is a very bad bill with too much pork and too little stimulus. If we are going to incur such debt, it should be for the purpose it has been touted for. This is business as usual, not the hope and change I assume you voted for. J.

To: combjelly who wrote (453297)	2/2/2009 11:53:37 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571365

>> Are sure of this? Yes. And I don't like it regardless of who is doing it. I prefer Republicans because they keep the country safe. But it is a fact, "indisputable" as I like to say, that the programs created under FDR and LBJ are the ones that will bring this country down. When the history of America is written -- 500 years from now, it will have been SS and Medicare that brought it down IMO.

To: combjelly who wrote (453297)	2/2/2009 11:54:30 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571365

Supply side can work under the right conditions. We don't have them right now." Dolts dont get this simple fact. I bet inode was against the part of supply side that was borrow and spend and allowed deficits back in the early 80s. Then you had a supply side problem and reagan incented firms to build out. Jobs were created and consumption followed. Now you have a lean and mean core but no buyers. Making them leaner and meaner wont help. Getting money into the hands that will spend it and getting confidence back for business so they can make projections once again needs a stimulus package. Pork free would be great but i will take pork lite too. I think this bill needs a lot of work yet. Hopefully obama was astute enough to let both the dems and reps in the house get their ideological rocks off and now expects grown ups in the senate to carve out something better.

To: combjelly who wrote (453297)	2/5/2009 5:23:19 PM
From: TimF	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571365

. But, as a Republican you can't really complain about that. Pork-laden bills was your hallmark when you controlled Congress. He never controlled congress. And he only got to vote for three seats in congress, with the odds of his vote being decisive on any of them approaching zero. Would you say that you can't every complain about something the Republicans do, if the Democrats had done it before? I doubt it. If so then you can't complain about pork laden bills either next time we have a Republican congress. Most of the examples being screamed over are penny ante stuff, not even up to the levels of the Bridge to Nowhere, and in a much bigger bill. Broadly defined the bill is almost entirely pork. Narrowly defined (to cover only earmarks) it may have little or even technically no pork, but the real issue isn't the technical definition of pork, but rather massive amounts of politically direct spending.