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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lane3 who wrote (5939)2/6/2009 1:57:03 PM
From: gg cox1 Recommendation  Respond to of 42652
 
<<My inner analyst recognizes the myriad problems with a national system like, say, Canada's and judges implementation of such a system here to be a disaster for the country long term.>>

Many businesses in North America are hopscotching to countries with the lowest wages and no health care costs and free tax incentives to set up shop..Mexico, Poland, Ireland , China, Vietnam...even China to Vietnam and China pointing finger of 20 million back to impoverished villages.

There are many counties to choose from that are poor, and want to climb up the ladder, so hopscotching around the world will continue in roundabout ..eventually after hundreds of years coming back to impoverished North America.

Who loses?Those at the top of the heap now, lose thats who.Those good paying jobs that picked up health care costs are quickly diminishing.
The tax base that supported public health care in Canada is quickly diminishing.Gloomy eh?Buckle up.



To: Lane3 who wrote (5939)2/6/2009 5:08:27 PM
From: Mary Cluney1 Recommendation  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 42652
 
<<<I look at this at two different levels. One is as a systems analyst experienced in big government systems. My inner analyst recognizes the myriad problems with a national system like, say, Canada's and judges implementation of such a system here to be a disaster for the country long term.>>>

Is system analysis any good? Do they have a long history?

What is the prognosis for system analysis to improve over time.

Isn't system analysis pretty much like what Microsoft does.

I mean they try to build big meaningful systems. Version 1.0 is usually a disaster Version 2.0 is little better but people still hate it. Version 3.0 is still crap. But they continue to chug alone. By my reckoning it isn't until version 6.0 or 7.0 that the system comes together but by that time someone else has come up with a newer and better platform.

Healthcare systems in my opinion is in a lot of ways much simpler than complex software systems. But the point is to try to do the best you can and fix the problems as they come along, and over time it is inevitable that some country, somewhere will get it closer to meeting a lot of worthy objectives.

Doing nothing and allowing the free market to do it's thing is in my opinion a much worse option



To: Lane3 who wrote (5939)2/7/2009 9:44:04 AM
From: Peter Dierks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
as long as she can exercise choice to go outside the system, they can't screw things up enough in her lifetime to keep her from needed health care. While I strongly disapprove of a national system, I will reserve my outrage-level reaction for laws that make it illegal to go elsewhere.

Get ready to be outraged. People will be forced to take foreign medical vacations for even routine care.