To: RetiredNow who wrote (4994 ) 2/15/2009 1:18:12 PM From: Sdgla Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356 My values havent changed at all and your using Israel as an example of torture doesnt hold up under the light of day imo. How many rockets have your neighbors dumped in your back yard ? My guess is you would not make such absurd statements after the first one landed in your kitchen. Innocent people are not tortured unless you feel that those captured in the act on the battlefield are innocents victims. You also dont create 1000 terrorists for ever 1 u torture. Where do you get that bit of data ? There is no long term when it comes to obtaining information that could prevent something worse that 911. There is no peaceful short term prevention for the creation of jihadists other than sending them on to their desired location of virgin central. Check this out for the current educational product being put out for ME kiddies {fits right in to your belief that they want peace} : Hamas Kiddie-TV Puppet Bear wants to Kill Jews Too by Gil Ronen After having three puppet hosts -- Farfur the Mickey Mouse look-alike, Nahoul the bee and Assoud the rabbit -- all die on TV, Hamas children's television has introduced a fourth puppet host. The new one, a bear named Nassur, appeared Friday on Hamas TV promising to be a Jihad fighter, and declaring war on the Zionists. To see Nassur declare war on the Zionists click here. Below is the full transcript of the video (by Palestinian Media Watch): Nassur: "I will join the ranks of the Izz A-Din Al-Qassam [Hamas'] Brigades. I will be a Jihad fighter with them and I will carry a rifle. Do you know why, Saraa?" Saraa: "Why?" Nassur: "To defend the children of Palestine, the children who were killed, the children who were wounded, the orphaned children. That's why, from this moment, I declare war on the criminal Zionists. Not only me, me and you. You are ready, right, Saraa?" Saraa: "We are all ready to sacrifice ourselves for our homeland!" israelnationalnews.com