To: Think4Yourself who wrote (94699 ) 2/25/2009 10:55:11 AM From: TimF 1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555 Does anyone REALLY think the Iranian people see themselves as the bad guys I certainly don't. The Iranian government OTOH... And before you ask, I doubt the Iranian government sees themselves as "the bad guys". That doesn't mean they aren't, just that they don't see themselves that way. "The bad guys" is rather simplistic, but "the simple mental step of putting yourself in the other guy's position", doesn't justify all of what Iran's government does, from being a major supporter of terrorism, to abusing its own people (and yes there are other countries even more abusive, I'm not saying Iran is worse here, mearly that it is bad on this measure). For example --- Your Daughter is not Fit to be a Doctor in this Country Bani-Yaghoub was a graduate of school for gifted children. She had obtained the impressive 23rd position in the overall national exam entrance into the Iranian universities. She was also a graduate of Tehran Medical university. After graduation, rather than taking up a high salary job, she had volunteered to work in the impoverished poor provinces of Iranian Kurdistan. Zahra came from a religious family background and her father was imprisoned during the Shah for political activities, but none of this protected her from the terrible fate that was awaiting her in the Islamic Republic. The 27 year old Zahra was arrested while walking in a Park in Hamedan along with her fiancee by the Islamic Republic's religious observance patrol. The next day, her father was called and told to come to Hamedan. Her father asked to speak to his daughter but permission was refused. When Zahra's parents arrived at the religious patrol headquarters, they were subjected to humiliating insults. The illiterate thugs told Zahra's father, 'Your daughter is not fit to be a doctor in this country'. Another religious patrol officer told Zahra's father while laughing, 'If you want to know about your daughter, go to the police station, no better still go to court and no even better still go to the coroner'. Somehow Zahra while being detained for walking with her fiancee in the park had been killed in custody of the religious patrol. More than a year later, Zahra's family who took part in the revolution still have no idea what happened to their daughter. They were even threatened not to pursuit her case. In just about any other country, Zahra would be regarded as an asset, she would be protected and rewarded. In the Islamic Republic of Iran an illiterate religious police thug can decide and tell her father 'Your daughter is not fit to be a doctor for this country'azarmehr.blogspot.com ---- IMO the fact that you recognize that "our" side does indeed do bad things shows that you think. Just about everyone recognizes that "our side" does bad things. His point went far beyond "does bad things".